Ever got attacked

raaarj2 · #1 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 02:01 AM

I was wondering if anybody ever got attacked bye your hoggs i'm not talking srike and bite i'm talking about trying to kill you attacked

morti · #2 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 02:06 AM

Snakes, as a general rule, have two distinct kinds of strikes... A defensive strike and a feeding response strike. It is in their nature to strike quickly and let go as a defensive measure if they feel overly threatened and to strike and hold (and in the case of boas and some other species, constrict) if they think what they are biting is food. There is no such thing as a snak that is "Trying to kill you".

So the answer to your question is No, my hog has never tried to kill me.. and neither has any other snake I have ever encountered either in captivity or in the wild.

trinitywolf · #3 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 02:26 AM

Donnie hit the nail on the head. I have to ask however, what makes you ask this question?

raaarj2 · #4 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 02:28 AM

T.V

JuliusSqueezer · #5 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 02:30 AM

There is a third type of bite and I'm really surprised that Donnie missed it...since he has a bit of nerve damage from such a bite that I was ever so lucky to wittness LOL. It is the revenge bite. This is when a normally nonagressive snake doesn't exactly like what you are doing to him...let's say hypothetically..."Probing" hehe...then they just kinda look at ya mean and turn around and chomp down on you ...no constriction, just a nice little, "I'm mad and you are a jerk and I'm gonna bite you now" bite.

trinitywolf · #6 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 02:32 AM

ok....what did you see on TV?

morti · #7 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 02:36 AM

LOL Brett... It is just such occurance that made me use "as a general rule" in my post.

raaarj2 · #8 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 02:37 AM

There was a show on where these guys were getting attacked bye there pet snake some were boa's,retics,pythons so i was just wondering if i can talk to someone instead of watching but writing to the person

morti · #9 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 02:45 AM

I think I know the completely worthless animal planet special that you are refering to. Real keepers can identify exactly what caused the bite to occur and don't blame the snake. It is not the snakes fault any more than it would be a cats fault for scratching or a dogs fault for barking. They are snakes... it's what they do. If we are talking about the same special, they sensationalized it a lot and dramatized it way too much. It made me angry that it was in production, let alone on my screen.

trinitywolf · #10 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 02:45 AM

I think I know the show you are talking about. All of the snakes in that show are much, much larger than a hogg...not to mention that show is WAY overdramatized. There is one story in that entire show of a person that didn't do something completely idiotic getting hurt. He was dealing with a 20+ ft snake that is usually agressive in nature anyway. When you deal with those particular species that is a risk you should be very aware of though. If I remember he worked for a zoo, so I'm sure he knew what the score was.
Hope this helps some man.

Stormyva · #11 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 03:20 AM

raarj2... as everyone else has said, most people who have kept snakes can tell you exactly what brought on a strike. Whether it be a food response, defensive, or the one that Brett described, a snake is still going to be an individual. What may provoke one snake may have no response at all on another. Forewarning, Hogs tend to hiss and be a little more "on edge" than a col. but they are for the most part docile and mine have never actually struck at me.

Bry · #12 (**permalink**) 09-17-2003, 05:02 AM

Well, my hoggs have never bitten me. But, at one time or another, they have hissed or done a intentional "short" open-mouth strike where they strike short enough to miss you. They've never actually bitten me, but their behavior is enough to get the point across. They're basically telling me to fudge off. My male has only hissed at me once in 2 years, and the last time my older female has done any hissing or short striking was 3 years ago. The younger female does the short strikes after feeding. Otherwise, these guys are very calm snakes.

I'm with the others here, I have never seen any snake intentionally try to kill a person just for pleasure, in a sense. Those instances you saw on the show, the snake probably just saw those people as food, because these guys were playing with their pet chinchillas right before going to play with their Burmese python. That in itself is the owner's fault, not the snake's. Large snakes are perfectly capable of killing a human, yes, but they are not malicious by nature.

Bry

djnzlab · #13 (**permalink**) 10-05-2003, 01:35 AM

HI,
My 6 foot hog female has never even tried to bite me much less kill.

that show you watched was hyped for the snake a phobics and did very little for the herp collectors of the world.
Most of the animals that attacked someone was a wild retic ( god knows how many feet My guess more than 18 feet ).
Some guy tring to feed his very hungry retic and had a stupid feeding accident that nearly cost him his life.
I saw a show about B clarks retics and Large Burms and a young women was feeding them with a snake Hook at a great distance.
They grabbed the food and she slammed the door.
Most of the snake attacks either occur on feeding day or a much more dangerous practice of allowing the animal to room freely in your home, you may wake up with someone slurping on your toe or worse your face a big burm could hurt you ...
doug

here's and adult hog waiting for her food this is about as exciting as it gets. with a hog...

don't watch those BS shows they can scare your family to the point you can't keep a reptile in your home..

python04slayer · #14 (**permalink**) 09-15-2004, 09:02 PM

beautiful hog djnzlab

stckinlodi · #15 (**permalink**) 09-15-2004, 09:31 PM

i know what show ur talking about it was called the big squeez all those people smelt like the animals food like that one idiot that went to handle hes burm after playing with his chinchellas

and the snakes get the bad wrap lol

Silvermoonfox · #16 (**permalink**) 09-15-2004, 10:12 PM

I liked the Big Squeeze. Of course, as someone that is familiar with snakes it was easier to recognize the mistakes the "keeper" had made. Even though it was overdramatized a bit (a lot) it's still interesting seeing a huge reticulated python eat a water buffalo. I agree that shows like that only add more fear to people, really these types of shows should talk about proper keeping/handling/feeding and demonstrate what CAN happen if you don't use common sense and follow basic safety rules.

pathfinder36 · #17 (**permalink**) 09-15-2004, 11:08 PM

I've been attacked before. A couple of times actually. When I lived in Houston Texas, there were a number of occasions that Water Moccosins would litterally chase you down. I've NEVER come in contact with ANY other snake that would actually CHASE you. Defend its territory or defend itself, sure but CHASE??? Kinda wierd.

dave_lp · #18 (**permalink**) 09-15-2004, 11:36 PM

Ive been chased by Water Moccosins as well. Down in Tennessee. Went to lift the seat on the boat to get the ski rope, and one jumped. came at me in every part of the boat i was in until i got off. in any handleing of other snakes ive down, the only jumping ive seen is jumping away.

lethargiic · #19 (**permalink**) 09-16-2004, 12:38 AM

oh no! watch out for the killer garden snakes..those things can kill a human in like 2 seconds... *rolls eyes*

If a person gets killed by their snake regardless of what kind it was, it's either because of stupidity or an act of nature.. a while back in orlando area, a guy was keeping a green anaconda in a greenhouse he built for it and the place looked like a real jungle from what I was told..well he went to feed his anaconda dead rabbits (smart guy) and was barely inside the door, stuck his arm inside holding the rabbit (not so smart guy) and the anaconda jumped up out of nowhere and nabbed his owner...the snake was some 20-22 feet. a decent size..
well anyway, the unfortunate thing was no one could hear the guy screaming and the snake killed his owner but didnt eat him.. the snake smelled the rabbit and had very horrible aim. Also from what I was told when police found him his face was so messed up they couldnt tell who he was.

So there's a good example that snakes dont eat humans, unless your a jungle pygmy warrior who wears chicken heads as a necklace and wear animal fur loin cloth... lol j/k

haroldo359 · #20 (**permalink**) 09-16-2004, 01:55 AM

djnzlab... gorgeous hog island boa!!!!

about the big squeeze... yeah.. it did overdramatize the danger of giant pythons. BUT... it did make the danger of giant pythons clear. and people complain that the croc hunter makes handling hots look like child's play on his show. so showing people that owning a retic, burm, etc. can be dangerous and that that is something that people need to consider. (especially if they are gonna run chinchilla on them

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