BCC vs BCI

[Biermag11]

Is there any real difference between the two? How can you tell them apart? in pet stors do they usally sell BCC or BCI? Also, how big do males get for BCI and BCC. Thanks [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]
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	Boa Constrictor Constrictor Red Tail Boa Constrictor (Boa constictor constrictor). Refers to "true" red tail boas such as the Guyana and Suriname locales.

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[XzyluM]

BCI are the common boas, while BCC are referred to the "true" redtails. BCI males usually get 6-7 feet while females 7-9 feet. BCC males usually reach 7-9 feet while females 9-12 feet. BCC have a brighter contrast and their tails are redder.
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	Boa Constrictor Constrictor Red Tail Boa Constrictor (Boa constictor constrictor). Refers to "true" red tail boas such as the Guyana and Suriname locales.

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[XzyluM]

You're most likely to find BCI in petstores rather than BCC. If you are interesting in getting either a BCI or BCC it would be a lot better to find a reputable breeder online.
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	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[Ed_r]

Only true way to tell them apart is a scale count. There is a thread in FAQ that spells it out pretty good. You really can't go by markings and coloration. It's ok for ball parking, but there are many traits that have been crossbred in the trade and also in the wild. I say If it looks good to you ...Who cares what it is? I wouldn't trade my BCIs for a BCC for the world.
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	Boa Constrictor Constrictor Red Tail Boa Constrictor (Boa constictor constrictor). Refers to "true" red tail boas such as the Guyana and Suriname locales.

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[ratsickle]

HI,
I found an excellent breeder who's selling top notch Boa's at a price thats extremly resonable, he ships to your door and the shipping price is included. The BCI He has for sale right now are colorful and are 66% het for albino. If your intrested in breeding them.
I have two boa that I purchased from him.
This is one happy boa owner trying to spread the wealth.

Doug


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Click here if you want one hehehe
http://www.redtailboas.com/colombian/index.shtml

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

	Heterozygous Heterozygous - the animal carries the gene for a genetic trait but does not outwardly demonstrate the trait. Example: A boa that is het for albino looks normal but carries the albino gene. When it is bred to another het for albino boa or an albino boa, a percentage of the offspring will be albino.

[mhartmann]

In response to xyzlum's comment, I'd say those size ranges are really on the high end. Unless you're power feeding your snakes, adult male bci's are around 5-7 ft, mostly 5-6 at an adult size. Females are mostly 6-7. male bcc's are around 6-8, mostly 6-7, and females are between 7-10, but mostly 7-8 feet. Yes female bci's can grow to 10 ft but that's kind of rare. And it's also fairly rare for a female bcc to grow past 10 ft.

These sizes are what you're looking at when you buy from a pet store/breeder/or reptile refuge (ie. the choice specimens have been already removed from the litter). And also if you feed the snake one prey item per feeding. Over feeding the boa is unhealthy and you'll find messy stools or regurgitation.

	Boa Constrictor Constrictor Red Tail Boa Constrictor (Boa constictor constrictor). Refers to "true" red tail boas such as the Guyana and Suriname locales.

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[mpgt]

Wow, this is an old thread. There are obvious differences between a BCI and a BCC. It gets tricky when there's a mix. Here's a thread that might help you see the difference.
http://redtailboa.net/forums/boas/34...-you-tell.html

	Boa Constrictor Constrictor Red Tail Boa Constrictor (Boa constictor constrictor). Refers to "true" red tail boas such as the Guyana and Suriname locales.

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[lloyd]

[lloyd]

male bci and female bcc....in that order

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	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[phillipswildbill]

Originally Posted by lloyd

Those are both very good looking snakes, what ever they might be.

[lubbock]

So are "mexican boas" bci's? I don't hear them called that anymore, but I remember 20-25 years ago, there were 2 types of boas kept as pets. (at least commonly) The majority were called "Mexican or common boa" and then the more "exotic" Columbian Red-Tail boas. Am I just imagining this, or does anyone else recall that?

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[lloyd]

Originally Posted by phillipswildbill

Those are both very good looking snakes, what ever they might be.

..male bci.........female bcc suriname

	Boa Constrictor Constrictor Red Tail Boa Constrictor (Boa constictor constrictor). Refers to "true" red tail boas such as the Guyana and Suriname locales.

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[phillipswildbill]

Originally Posted by lloyd

..male bci.........female bcc suriname

My best guess was a columbian and a suriname but after reading this thread and especially the one mgpt posted, I was scared to guess on anything. DANKTAT had a great post in that other thread. The two posts had me checking my books. Again, DANKTAT had a very good and thourough post. Your snakes Are very nice.

	Boa Constrictor Constrictor Red Tail Boa Constrictor (Boa constictor constrictor). Refers to "true" red tail boas such as the Guyana and Suriname locales.

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[lubbock]

bump..

still wondering about the "mexican boa" vs "columbian boa", are "common mexican boas" bci's?

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[mpgt]

I've never heard of a "common Mexican boa". As far as the Mexican vs Colombian, I think they would be easy to tell apart.

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[qiksilver]

Originally Posted by lubbock

bump..
still wondering about the "mexican boa" vs "columbian boa", are "common mexican boas" bci's?

it's all about locality. although mexican boas are usually darker and have higher saddle counts and such, but that's a huge generalization.

check out Gus' site to see pics of locale boas.

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[lubbock]

Sounds good, I personally am of the mind that a good looking boa is just that, and for other than breeding and morphs it's a non-issue. The reason I brought up "mexican boas" as a youngster many years ago, growing up in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area if you went to pets stores you would find two varieties of boas for sale. They would label them as "Common Mexican Boa" and "Columbian Red-Tailed Boa". I am guessing that that far back and being in Texas a large number were WC from Mexico and then the South American varities were labeled Columbian. Just my guess though. So would the boas from mexico be bci's ?

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

	Morph A morph is a color or pattern variation that is proven to be genetic. Common morphs include albino, anerythristic, gentically striped, Hypomelanistic, and many others. Morphs also include combinations of simple traits such as "Sunglow" which is Albino and Hypomelanistic. These traits may be recessive traits, co-dominant traits, dominant traits, or created through selective breeding (ie Pastel).

[phillipswildbill]

Originally Posted by lubbock

So are "mexican boas" bci's? I don't hear them called that anymore, but I remember 20-25 years ago, there were 2 types of boas kept as pets. (at least commonly) The majority were called "Mexican or common boa" and then the more "exotic" Columbian Red-Tail boas. Am I just imagining this, or does anyone else recall that?

The common boa can be found through out Northern and Central S. America. Hence the wide range you have very different patterns and coloration and accordind to my reference with out scale #'s and going on saddles they are a bcc, where as you Emperor boa can be found from nn. Mexico through out Central America also making for a big differation of color and pattern and they average 22-30 saddles, again, without counting scales were talking about a bci.
I hope this answered your question.

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	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[lubbock]

yeah, I think so. So the next question as far as BCC and BCI, I have read that temperment and husbandry differ. BCI's being abit more forgiving. BCI's being less nippy as youngsters, and temp and humidity more specific in BCC's. Is this due to natural locale? I.E, a more constant temp and humidty in the wild, more natural predators in the wild?

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	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[phillipswildbill]

I'm not sure of the reason, but I think your right as a rule. I have 2 bcc's that are fussy eaters and are very timid, I have one older one that has been great since I got her at the age of 3. The mixes she throws look good and make great pets. I really couldn't say, out of 8 I don't think any of them act like any other, but none are mean but some are skiddish.

	Boa Constrictor Constrictor Red Tail Boa Constrictor (Boa constictor constrictor). Refers to "true" red tail boas such as the Guyana and Suriname locales.