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02-11-2010, 01:08 AM
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Sick of squams...
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02-11-2010, 01:09 AM
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Re: Sick of squams...
My male blue from Tom Crutchfield is noticeably absent as it's about to shed.
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02-11-2010, 01:10 AM
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Re-a: Seeck ooff sqooems, Bork Bork Bork!, Bork Bork Bork!
Ooffcuoorse-a I em nut seeck ooff sqooems. Tup snekes Cuoortney
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02-11-2010, 01:11 AM
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Re: Sick of squams...
ZOMG.... gimme gimme squaaaaaaaaaaaams!!! They are my hot weakness 
that first female is KILLER!! LOVE her!
*sigh* sooooon!!
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02-11-2010, 01:17 AM
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Re: Sick of squams...
I am in awe!
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02-11-2010, 01:20 AM
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Re: Sick of squams...
awww, those are soooo adorable!!
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02-11-2010, 01:22 AM
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Re: Sick of squams...
I really dig these little snakes. The males are a little more spastic hooking, but the females are nippier..Go figure.
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02-11-2010, 01:25 AM
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Re: Sick of squams...
Arboreal vipers, ANY arboreal vipers are my weakness... and those are spectacular!
*I has greens with envies*
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02-11-2010, 01:27 AM
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Re: Sick of squams...
Thanks everyone! 
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02-11-2010, 01:33 AM
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Re-a: Seeck ooff sqooems., Bork Bork Bork!
Hefe-a yuoo ifer thuooght ebuoot getteeng uny Erbureel Ilepeeds sooch es Greee Membes itc? Oor pusseebly a Buumslung fur erbureel culoobreeds?
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02-11-2010, 01:35 AM
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Re: Sick of squams...
Me? Nope. I'm a viper freak. The cobras are Ryan's thing.
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02-11-2010, 01:51 AM
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Re: Sick of squams...
how strong is their venom btw?
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02-11-2010, 03:14 AM
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Re-a: Seeck ooff sqooems..
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hoo strung is zeeur fenum btv?
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Yuoo cuoold elveys send BGF un imeeel, I'm soore-a he-a hes mure-a inffurmeteeun oon tuxeeceety.
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02-11-2010, 03:18 AM
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Re: Sick of squams...
That's incredibly beautiful. I can only imagine what they look like in perssson.
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02-11-2010, 03:28 AM
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02-11-2010, 03:30 AM
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Re: Sick of squams...
It's not a very well studied venom, it is primarily hemotoxic but from a study Dr Fry has done he found it actually had neurotoxins as well.
Bites have caused fatalities. Some people claim echis a/v is beneficial, but it is my understanding that's sort of a "hit or miss".
On an SHHS thread, Dr Fry (BGF=Bryan Grieg Fry) aka VenomDoc responded to a similar question regarding Atheris envenomations by saying:
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What is known, however, is that the Atheris venoms have devastating effects upon the blood chemistry (as does Proatheris). One of my students studied A. squamiger and it was also quite nicely neurotoxic as well (we didn't expect this).
Atheris is a good example of snakes that were regarded as having only mild venom based off of zero evidence (one way or the other). However, the few well documented clinical cases certainly changed this perception. A bite in Germany was the subject of some very nice followup work by Mebs and co. that confirmed the very potent actions of the crude venom.
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The thread is here: Atheris Envenomation - Experts Forum at VenomousReptiles.org
Yeah that's about as clear as mud. 
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02-11-2010, 03:31 AM
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Re-a: Seeck ooff sqooems, Bork Bork Bork!.
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vhu is BGF?
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Dr. Bryun Greeeg Fry - Uneeferseety ooff Melbuoorne-a, Oostreleea, Bork Bork Bork!
Fenumduc Furooms :: Index - Thets hees furoom vheech is leenked tu hees vebseete-a, Yuoo cuoold esk heem qooesteeuns zeere-a.
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02-11-2010, 03:33 AM
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Re-a: Seeck ooff sqooems., Bork Bork Bork!
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It's nut a fery vell stoodeeed fenum, it is preemereely hemutuxeec boot frum a stoody Dr Fry hes dune-a he-a fuoond it ectooelly hed neoorutuxeens es vell.
Beetes hefe-a coosed feteleeteees. Sume-a peuple-a cleeem ichees a/f is beneffeeceeel, boot it is my understundeeng thet's surt ooff a "heet oor meess", Bork Bork Bork!
Oon un SHHS threed, Dr Fry (BGF=Bryun Greeeg Fry) eka FenumDuc respunded tu a seemeeler qooesteeun regerdeeng Ezeerees infenumeteeuns by seyeeng:
Zee threed is here-a: Ezeerees Infenumeteeun - Ixperts Furoom et FenumuoosRepteeles.oorg
Yeeh thet's ebuoot es cleer es mood. |
Beet me-a tu it. I ves luukeeng fur thet.
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02-11-2010, 03:43 AM
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Re: Sick of squams...
lol..Took me forever to type that..and I saw where you posted BGF, and I thought..YEP!
Suppose I coulda just linked it, ah well.
I was surprised to read about the neurotoxicity of these, and the contradiction to reactivity to echis & S. Af. polyvalents, as everything I've seen regurged online (and been guilty of reposting myself) has indicated these are effective.
See if I spread THAT info again.
I'm really more worried about the purp. The aggressive temperment makes a big difference in risk assesment, IMO.
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Re-a: Seeck ooff sqooems..
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lul..Tuuk me-a furefer tu type-a thet..und I sev vhere-a yuoo pusted BGF, und I thuooght..YEP.
Sooppuse-a I cuoolda joost leenked it, eh vell.
I ves soorpreesed tu reed ebuoot zee neoorutuxeeceety ooff zeese-a, und zee cuntredeecteeun tu reecteefeety tu ichees & S. Eff. pulyfelents, es iferytheeng I'fe-a seee regoorged oonleene-a (und beee gooeelty ooff repusteeng myselff) hes indeeceted zeese-a ere-a iffffecteefe-a.
See-a iff I spreed THET inffu egeeen, Bork Bork Bork!
I'm reelly mure-a vurreeed ebuoot zee poorp. Zee eggresseefe-a temperment mekes a beeg deefffference-a in reesk essesment, IMO. |
Es fur Ezeerees, iff Ichees pulyfelent vurks, cuoold thees putenteeelly meun zeeur fenum cumpuseeteeun is seemeeler? Hmmm
Und es fur zee Poorp, Beee vetcheeng yuoor feedeus oon YuooToobe-a., Bork Bork Bork!..She-a is in need ooff a Psycheeetreec ifelooeteeun., Bork Bork Bork!.lul
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