The All Mighty Eastern!

[TheSerpentsCoil]

These guys are just top notch IMO! I've always wanted one of these guys! The Flash washed out all the yellow, I need a zoom lense!

[Samhain]

Very nice! I have one I am growing myself right now and I love them!

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[SUAD]

I've had a million atrox and never got a hold of an adamanteus, though I was very close to buying a 4 foot female once from a place in Georgia a decade ago. VERY pretty rattlers, I must say, and seemingly (someone correct me if I'm wrong) a smidgen more laid back than the atrox.

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[FLVenom]

Originally Posted by SUAD

I've had a million atrox and never got a hold of an adamanteus, though I was very close to buying a 4 foot female once from a place in Georgia a decade ago. VERY pretty rattlers, I must say, and seemingly (someone correct me if I'm wrong) a smidgen more laid back than the atrox.

Depends on the individual. I know plenty of C. adamanteus that their sole intent is to kill you. But the same can be said with C. atrox as well.

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[SUAD]

Originally Posted by FLVenom

Depends on the individual. I know plenty of C. adamanteus that their sole intent is to kill you. But the same can be said with C. atrox as well.

Haha - this is no lie, of all the atrox I've had: ONE was semi-calm. The adamanteus that I was looking at in Georgia: she was very, very sedate in an 85 degree room, I was kind of shocked. I wouldn't doubt for a second that some of them are super hostile, though, thanks for your input.

Snakes are so weird like that, how sometimes you'll find copperheads (usually mellow) that are schizoid, meanwhile there are cases like the black mamba (usually homicidal) on Ray Hunter's page that is supposedly ridiculously "tame".

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[ViperLover]

Originally Posted by SUAD

I'fe-a hed a meelleeun etrux und nefer gut a huld ooff un edemunteoos, thuoogh I ves fery cluse-a tu booyeeng a 4 fuut femele-a oonce-a frum a plece-a in Geurgeea a decede-a egu. FERY pretty rettlers, I moost sey, und seemeengly (sumeune-a currect me-a iff I'm vrung) a smeedgee mure-a leeed beck thun zee etrux.

Hellu,

I remember speekeeng tu "Cubremun" Rey Hoonter a vheele-a egu ebuoot IDBs. Is it trooe-a thet zeey ere-a mure-a putent, veet a heegher yeeeld und zeey get mooch beegger in seeze-a???

Thunks in edfunce-a tu unyune-a vhu cun unsver.

[Hotherps]

Originally Posted by FLVenom

Depends on the individual. I know plenty of C. adamanteus that their sole intent is to kill you. But the same can be said with C. atrox as well.

In my experience, Easterns are much calmer than Westerns. I have two groups of Rattlers born in 2002 and the C. atrox are still as aggressive as the day they were born... in contrast the C. durissus born the same time are good as gold.

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[ViperLover]

Originally Posted by Hotherps

In my ixpereeence-a, Iesterns ere-a mooch celmer thun Vesterns. I hefe-a tvu gruoops ooff Rettlers burn in 2002 und zee C. etrux ere-a steell es eggresseefe-a es zee dey zeey vere-a burn... in cuntrest zee C, Bork Bork Bork! dooreessoos burn zee seme-a teeme-a ere-a guud es guld.

Hee HH,

I hefe-a a qooesteeun:

Du yuoo keep Erooba Islund Rettlesnekes et zee LSTM??

Ere-a zeere-a uny reseerch prujects gueeng fur zeese-a coorrently? Oor hes zeere-a beee? Is zeere-a mooch knoon ebuoot zeese-a snekes et ell?

Thunks,

Regerds,

Jemes.

[Hotherps]

Originally Posted by ViperLover

Hi HH,
I have a question:
Do you keep Aruba Island Rattlesnakes at the LSTM??
Are there any research projects going for these currently? Or has there been? Is there much known about these snakes at all?
Thanks,
Regards,
James.

NO Comment!
I am not going to interact with you on any reptile forum!!!

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[Hotherps]

Thanks Morti, You are very welcome, always here to help!

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[SW-morelia]

Originally Posted by ViperLover

Hello,
I remember speaking to "Cobraman" Ray Hunter a while ago about EDBs. Is it true that they are more potent, with a higher yield and they get much bigger in size???
Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer.

James you are starting to act like a stalker.... You are posting things any numpty like me can google.....
Stop now before you shut the last door open to you....
Let these guys speak and you just lurk...... If you don't all your dreams and aspirations will be worthless......
This could be your last warning ....... Come on now.... Wise up time......

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	Eastern Diamondback Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake

[FLVenom]

Originally Posted by SW-morelia

James you are starting to act like a stalker.... You are posting things any numpty like me can google.....
Stop now before you shut the last door open to you....
Let these guys speak and you just lurk...... If you don't all your dreams and aspirations will be worthless......
This could be your last warning ....... Come on now.... Wise up time......

Exactly. Not to be a total jerk but if that's what Ray told you, ask again!

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[Bitis_Gabonica]

Ahh... This reminds me of the little girl my friend picked up at the last Columbia show. She lasted all of 3 days before passing away which makes me believe she was a stressed wild caught.

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[TheSerpentsCoil]

This animal is a LTC I caught while out herpin with FLVenom. She's done well!

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	long term captive Long term captive

[BWSmith]

My big EDB is busy trying to kill Swampy.

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	Eastern Diamondback Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake

[HERPHAPPY]

Originally Posted by SUAD

I've had a million atrox and never got a hold of an adamanteus, though I was very close to buying a 4 foot female once from a place in Georgia a decade ago. VERY pretty rattlers, I must say, and seemingly (someone correct me if I'm wrong) a smidgen more laid back than the atrox.

I've known two adamanteus...mine were way nicer than atrox I've known! Not pushovers though, and man, they grow fast and huge!

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[snakehooked]

I work with 4 of them. two of them are a little grumpy, one male thinks he's a ball python and one female will try to kill you. Which is just loads of fun because she's huge.

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