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11-17-2009, 07:42 PM
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Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
I thought I would crosspost this here in case anyone here knows or has seen anything about this.
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"Hello everyone,
Last night, 33 montane Mexican rattlesnakes were stolen from my collection housed in Alpine, Texas. Among the snakes were Crotalus willardi amabilis, C. w. silus, C. lepidus maculosus, C. l. morulus, and C. p. pricei. Most were juveniles, except for 4 adult C. w. amabilis and several C. p. pricei. Adults were legally collected and imported from Mexico...the juveniles were offspring from these adults. Despite being in a hurry and working in the dark, the thieves knew which adult
C. w. amabilis to take...they left the oldest adults, and stole 2 adult females and 2 adult males. They also knew not to take the ESA-listed C. w. obscurus. They opened several cages containing baby C. w. obscurus, but did not take any. A police report was filed, and numerous sets of fingerprints were obtained from the glass doors on the Vision cages housing the adults. Furthermore, and perhaps more importantly, I have an extensive collection of shed skins from all snakes in my collection. You can remove pit tags and hide snakes in dark basements, but you can't change a snake's DNA. I have been saving sheds for exactly this reason (theft). I can use DNA fingerprinting technology to track both the original C. w. amabilis and their offspring (through paternity testing) when they turn up (and they eventually will...be it one week from now or ten years for now). I will also pursue filing charges in a federal court of law since these snakes were of international origin, and can be identified as such. Lastly, I have photos of most snakes (definitely all the C. w. amabilis).
Please let me know if any of you hear anything related to this theft, and pass along the news. The rattlesnake community is pretty small, and these snakes are high profile (especially the C. w. amabilis).
Thanks!
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Robert W. Bryson, Jr.
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Ecology and Evolutionary Biology Section
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11-17-2009, 07:45 PM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
dang that's terrible  I hope they catch those idiots
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11-17-2009, 08:16 PM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
Passed this along via Twitter.
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11-17-2009, 08:19 PM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
Wow, some people. Sorry bout the bad luck and I hope you find the sorry thieves.
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11-17-2009, 08:21 PM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
That sure stinks!!!! and lets hope it doesn't take too long to catch them!!!! Hope the snakes are alright!??!! (I never thought of saving sheds for i.d. purpose in case of theft!? Hey AGA, keep saving those sheds!)
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11-17-2009, 08:25 PM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
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11-17-2009, 09:34 PM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
Good that the shed skins were kept! I never thought of that and it's certainly educational.
I hope the perps are caught, or envenomated, whichever hurts more.
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11-17-2009, 09:44 PM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
wow those theives musta thought they where smart..
to bad the owner was smarter saving sheds, thats just a good win right there
really hope they find all the snakes
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11-18-2009, 04:55 AM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
Unfortunately, thieves are by definition jerks...so you can't count on them taking good care of anything, even though it was valuable enough to steal...poor buzzbabies!
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11-19-2009, 05:40 AM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
I just wanted to subscribe but it seems I can't without a message. I live in Las Vegas and I sure would love to see your collection some day. Im furious about what happened just reading about it!
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11-19-2009, 05:47 AM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
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I just wanted to subscribe but it seems I can't without a message. I live in Las Vegas and I sure would love to see your collection some day. Im furious about what happened just reading about it!
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Sure you can...at the top, click into thread tools, and click subscribe etc.
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11-20-2009, 05:50 PM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
That sucks, hope they catch these guys! Some people will do anything for money!
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11-22-2009, 12:28 AM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
On the upside, those are not easy species to move on the open market.
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11-22-2009, 12:37 AM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
Alpine, Texas?!
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That's not a large community (especially of snake people) even these days.. It's an inside job, in my opinion..
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Very sad. And a black eye on all herpers.
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Good luck.
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11-24-2009, 06:31 AM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
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Originally Posted by RioBravoReptiles
Alpine, Texas?!
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That's not a large community (especially of snake people) even these days.. It's an inside job, in my opinion..
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Very sad. And a black eye on all herpers.
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Good luck.
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Agreed and thought it needed another bump.
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11-24-2009, 06:36 AM
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Re: Stolen Rattlesnakes-Heads Up
Wow sorry to hear about this.
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