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Old 07-14-2008, 05:40 AM
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Need Help in ID'ing This Rattler Please

This was at our ranch in Spray, Oregon (Wheeler County) and we'd love to be able to ID this snake. My son gets to write me a report on safety protocols for handling HOT's; he'll get to that as soon I finish giving him a can of whoop (butt)...







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Re: Need Help in ID'ing This Rattler Please

Looks like a western rattlesnake (Crotalus viridis). I'm not from around there, so I could be wrong.
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Re: Need Help in ID'ing This Rattler Please

deja vu..

Crotalus oreganus oreganus
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Re: Need Help in ID'ing This Rattler Please

He looks like he could be a Pacific Rattlesnake (crotalus v. oreganus )
i could be wrong . But that is what it looks like to me
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Re: Need Help in ID'ing This Rattler Please

its a north western....
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Re: Need Help in ID'ing This Rattler Please

Yea, pacific rattler (Crotalus viridis oreganus)has my vote too. Pretty snake...
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Re: Need Help in ID'ing This Rattler Please

We have both C. viridis and C. v. oreganus out there and I really couldn't tell which one it was. I think I'll have him report on both species in addition to the safety protocols needed (and why) when attempting to handle HOTs.

His reason for being so careless? "The snake just gave off the most peaceful vibe, Mom..." Geez lou-eez.....
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Re: Need Help in ID'ing This Rattler Please

I don't think oreganus is a ssp of viridis any longer.

at least at one point I heard it was not.
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Re: Need Help in ID'ing This Rattler Please

So, here's the word from our nice Fish & Wildlife guy. We have both subspecies since we're on the river:

Hi,

There is only one species of rattlesnake in Oregon; the western
rattlesnake. Within that species we have two sub-species; (1)northern pacific rattlesnake (Crotalus viridis oreganus), and the great basin rattlesnake (Crotalus viridis lutosus). Your snake is a good looking northern pacific rattlesnake. It has a cool tinge of green in the background color. Not all oreganus have that.
Great basin's have a lighter background color and wider spacing between the back markings, or diamonds as some people call them.
In the Spray area you could have both sub-species but oreganus is more likely north of the John day River and lutosus more likely to the south.

Hope that helps. Call if you have more questions.

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