Eye Lash Vipers

[Herpguy55]

I am really interested in eye lash vipers and malachon cobras. If anyone could give me a website on the caring of these wonderful snakes please do it will be greatly opritiated.

Thanks again

Kody Miller aka Herpguy55
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[najaboy]

Ummm...no offense Kody, but my immediate impression is that you really aren't ready for either one of these species. I gather from the tenor of your post that you are somewhat inexperienced with venomous.

Eyelash vipers are not a good beginner species. Not only do they require specialized care, as do many arboreals, but it has recently been shown that an envenomation is far more medically significant than once thought.

There is no such animal as a "malachon" cobra. I believe what you meant was monocle cobra, Naja kaouthia. Regardless, those who keep elapids as first hots are prime candidates for Darwin Awards

If you want to work with hots, first gain all the experience you can with nonvenomous snakes. It will most likely take several years before a given person is "ready" (if they ever are) to work with hots. After you gain substantial experience, start with something easy and predominantly non-lethal such as a copperhead. You'll likely lose a finger if envenomated, but at least the odds of surviving a "newbie" mistake will be in your favor.



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mmmmm YUMMY!!!
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[RevMojo]

and the new winner for most disgusting thing I've seen posted...

Now, if Rat Chewed Python will hand over the trophy...
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[BWSmith]

Very well said Naja. I just want to say that just because this is a venomous forum, we do not encourage anyone to delve into the world of hots. To a certain extent, we try to help each other in husbandry issues with venomous. But I think the two main purposes of a venomous forum (on a public forum) is to help educate and share these wonderful animals with the public and to have a place for ven keepers to "talk hots". At no point, when someone posts here wanting a hot, will we jump up and yell "ALRIGHT!! We got another one!!" [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img] It takes a very long time and a lot of experience to work with hots. And before offering serious advice or guidence into owning a hot, we like to qualify the person first. It is to protect you and us. The internet is a tricky thing, and anonymity can be a little dangerous sometimes when getting advice. And I agree with Naja, if anyone is looking to get an elapid as a first hot, they are having a potentially FATAL lapse in judgement. I am not saying that someday you may not be ready, but it is clear that right now, you are not. Don't be offended, hang out, read, learn all you can. Just don't go to a herp show and buy a hot becuase it is "Neat Looking" or "Cool" and because the vendor says that it is eas to take care of. There are many dealers out there that have no morals when it comes to hots and will sell anyone anything, I won't name names, but one rhymes with BLADES! [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]


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[JuliusSqueezer]

I think when someone first starts thinking about "how cool" it would be to keep hots...the first questions that come out are...what's a good first hot? and What's a good practice snake to deal with ie: racers, coachwhips, etc....If you are asking these things, then you are not ready and won't be ready any time too soon. If you do not know how to care for a eyelash viper or any particular hot, then you can't possibly know enough about the animal in any aspect to even consider keeping one. A pretty picture is alluring. But...this is not something where impulse should ever be a factor...EVER. Listen to Ken and Brian here...they aren't trying to maintain any elite status by discouraging new people from their little clique. They are offering advice based on experience. Anyone wanting to get into hots MUST spend a significant amount of time (several years) working with someone else who is responsible and experienced under close supervision. Be careful with this too. Just because someone has kept them for many years still doesn't mean that they are a good mentor. So many hot keepers become stupid with experience...Keep your eyes open and know the person and demand responsible training. If he/she wants to show off and horse play during your training...you need to seek help elsewhere. Most good keepers will be more than happy to help you as long as your intentions seem in order and you can act responsible. Keep in mind that your mistakes can get them killed too.
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	Venomous Reptile A term commonly used to refer to a venomous reptile. Most commonly used in reference to venomous snakes.

[Herpguy55]

Thanks for all the advice. But I wasn't planning on getting a hot any time soon I just wanted to know as much about them as I can. I admit I am NOT ready for a hot yet but the more I learn the sooner I will be. When I am would an Osage Copperhead be a good hot to start with?

Any thing u can tell me to help would be appriciated. Thank you

Kody Miller a.k.a Herpguy55


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