Anothre ID please..!! thanks

gdfelas · #1 (**permalink**) 10-19-2004, 05:51 PM

This one was also found in south america .Pantanal area... wasnt sure if it was venomous or not.No one was around to ask at the time that knows about snakes. so i got a couple of pic and sent him on his way. Thanks for looking

natas · #2 (**permalink**) 10-19-2004, 10:10 PM

I am of no help here, but I am thinking either a coral snake of some sort or a colubrid haha. All I know is that if that snake lived here in Texas I would pick it up, but the red on black rule dosen't apply in other areas of the world

haroldo359 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-20-2004, 12:23 AM

great lookin' snake. i am interested to see what it is, also.

irishsnakes · #4 (**permalink**) 10-20-2004, 04:44 PM

i'm interested in knowing why you would pick a snake up by the tail without knowing whether it was venomous or not beforehand. you don't have a tv show or own a zoo in austrailia, do you?lol

JuliusSqueezer · #5 (**permalink**) 10-20-2004, 05:20 PM

Oxyrhopus of some kind. There are like 5 or 6 different ssp in that region. O. rhombifer maybe?

gdfelas · #6 (**permalink**) 10-20-2004, 05:45 PM

Thanks Julius..you have been very helpful thanks...you sure know your snakes. and irishsnakes i didnt actually pit that snake up bt its tail... it wasnt as simple as just see the tail and pick it up for a pic..lol...i actually let the head go for the picture as i was putting him down...but im no expert..thats for sure i make mistakes all the time...BUT if picking a snake up by the tail would get me my own show or zoo...and get paid millions of $$$$ then sign me up....

gdfelas · #7 (**permalink**) 10-20-2004, 05:48 PM

Are any of the Oxyrhopus,venomous???

JuliusSqueezer · #8 (**permalink**) 10-20-2004, 06:14 PM

no, it's a colubrid...totally harmless. (false coral...some ssp are refered to as calico snakes)

JuliusSqueezer · #9 (**permalink**) 10-20-2004, 06:19 PM

There are also some tricolored hognosed snakes in that area but their bands are usually more distinct. However both of these species display a wide variety of patterns and color even in a tight locale. It's hard to say with certainty exactly what you are holding with just these photos except that it is not a coralsnake (the only tricolored venomous snake in that area) A good head shot would quickly rule in or out a hognosed snake. Did it have an upturned snout by chance? If it did, that would be a very unusual hognose. If it didn't then it's fairly safe to say that it's one of several ssp of oxyrhopus.

gdfelas · #10 (**permalink**) 10-20-2004, 06:24 PM

Thanks ..i dont think so if i remember right it had a similar head of like a comom garter snake ....thanks once again

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