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Old 07-10-2004, 12:23 AM
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Local State HOT Regulations

Found a website were it tells you if your allowed or need a permit to keep venomous snakes that are native and/or exotic.


http://www.coastalreptiles.com/venomous_laws.htm
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Florida is a pain to get permits. I got all my permits and they called me for each one and I had to take a test. I even got my gator trapping permit.
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What did you go through getting a permit besides taking a test?
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Native Venomous: Fishing License required :wtf:

that's just wrong..lol i can imagine someone reading this and thinking they need to bring a fishing pole into the woods to catch a wild venomous..lmfao
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What did you go through getting a permit besides taking a test?
First I had to get the application and submit it along with a copy of my drivers lic. and then Tell them why I wanted the permits. After mailing them they called me on the phone and asked me a few more questions. Then after all the questions they sent someone to the place where I was going to keep them and they checked everything. Then they gave me a date to go and take my test. after taking my test I had to wait for about a week before they called and let me know that my permits were on the way. Plus I had to tell the county that I was going to keep wildlife on my property. Also it depends on what Lic. you need/want. My alligator was 200 and my venomous was 50 to keep and 100 to show/sell. it was jus a pain to have to go through it all.
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Those are good basic guidlines, but Mardi is not going to take th time to update it constantly. Before going after any permits, contact the agancy listed.
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hey keller you also had to go through the "So many hours training" with a person that has had there hot license for over a year correct? you forgot to mention that and i was wondering...
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No actualy I didn't have to because I could prove that I had done work for a zoo with hots and they wavied it. Although I do belive you have to have 1000 hours from what they asked me and you have to be able to show proof and they have to be able to contact the place where you worked.
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WOW i just looked at that site and realized how many states you dont even need a permit for.... thats kinda scary....
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I live in FL and Do have my Permits and some of what your saying Keller is very new to me so i have to ask just to be sure they havent changed the laws again.

First: When did they start asking " Why you want to keep them?" No place in my application or permit renewel is that question asked. When did that start?

2nd: What test are you reffering to?

3rd: When did they start requireing a person to tell the county what you will keep?

4th: When did the Alligator permit go to $200.00 and what class permit is it?

5th: Venomous permit is 50? and show / sell / exhibit is 100$ when did that change?

6th :what zoo did you work for?

7th: Were there any other things you had to have for your permits?

8th: What type of inspection did they do on your facility and who did the inspection was it the state or county officer?

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I live in FL and Do have my Permits and some of what your saying Keller is very new to me so i have to ask just to be sure they havent changed the laws again.

First: When did they start asking " Why you want to keep them?" No place in my application or permit renewel is that question asked. When did that start?

2nd: What test are you reffering to?

3rd: When did they start requireing a person to tell the county what you will keep?

4th: When did the Alligator permit go to $200.00 and what class permit is it?

5th: Venomous permit is 50? and show / sell / exhibit is 100$ when did that change?

6th :what zoo did you work for?

7th: Were there any other things you had to have for your permits?

8th: What type of inspection did they do on your facility and who did the inspection was it the state or county officer?

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1. they asked me that on the phone it wasn't on the app.

2. It was to rehabilitate animals and had to go to Lakeland to take the test.

3. This from what I have heard is new because if anything gets out they want to know where it could have come from and how to fix it so it wouldn't happen again. They said that some places you can't keep certain animals.

4., 5. It was last year from what the website said. I will post the changes. Oh and I just looked at the stuff I had to pay for and the alligator was $250 and is the Resident Alligator Trapping License

6. ATL

7. Nope that was it.

8. They came by to look because of the types of animals I would be keeping. If it was only reptiles then I don't think they would Have come by. They had to check to see if I had adiquate caging and room. It was a county but he had to send a copy of the report to the state.

This was taken from the website and might help with any other questions.
oh and I also had to pay this. but I don't think I will after is runs out.

*edit* If you plan to exhibit the venomous reptiles at any time during the year, you must post a $1,000 surety bond payable to the Governor of Florida. Please refer to Florida Statutes 372.88. The surety bond must be for a period of not less than one year. You may contact your Insurance Agent for additional bond information. Please attach the bond to your completed application and return it to us. *end edit*

* The fees for licenses to exhibit or sell wildlife increased depending
upon the number of Class I and/or Class II specimens possessed. The
license fee for the possession of not more than 25 Class I and/or Class
II specimens is $150. The license fee for the possession of 26 or more
Class I and/or Class II specimens is $250. Additionally, a new fee of
$50 was created for any number of Class III wildlife specimens. This
was the first fee increase for this license since it was created in 1969.

* The fee for a license to possess Class II wildlife for personal use was
increased to $140. Class II wildlife is defined as wildlife considered
to be a real or potential threat to human safety. This was the first fee
increase since this license was created in 1974.

* The license fees for a license to keep, possess, or exhibit venomous
or poisonous reptiles increased to $100. This was the first fee
increase since 1953.

* The license fee for a private hunting preserve increased to $70. This
was the first fee increase since the license was created in 1959.

* The license fee for a game farm and preserve increased to $50.
Again, this was the first fee increase since the license was created in
1929.
The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission is not seeking to make a
profit; however, if the agency does not cover its costs, all of the taxpayers of the State
of Florida have to subsidize these costs. The license fee increases allow the agency to
recover the costs of inspections and issuance of licenses. The current cost to inspect
each wildlife facility is approximately $135. A large facility inspection may cost more
due to the additional time required to inspect numerous cages and animals.
We thank you for your understanding and respectfully ask for your continued
support regarding this matter. Should you have further questions regarding this matter,
please feel free to contact our Investigations Unit at (850) 488-6253.
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Ok your post was very confusing when i read it this morniging so I ask a Captain with Florida Game and Fish Commission He said you appear to be posting bits of information from numerous permitting sections which will and I fully agree confuse people and some of your information is very incorrect.

1st: To posses an American Alligator"Alligator mississippiensis" you need to have the CLASS 3 permit to posses for sale which is $50.00 annually along with the Transportation permit as directed under Florida Fish and Game Comission section 68A-6.002 Categories of Captive Wildlife. Also 68A-6.005

http://www.myfwc.com/faq/captive.html#Categories

2nd: Notifying of the county is not true { You are not required to notify anyone but Florida Game and Fish Commision for any permit or for any animals you keep} No such rule or law is in effect to notification of local agencies though its a good idea to at very least let local fire know for their safety in a wourse case scenerio.

3rd the Permits you have are STATE permits and Must by law be inspected and issued by the STATE not the county. This is law under

372.901 Inspection.—
Poisonous or venomous reptiles, held in captivity, shall be subject to inspection by an inspecting officer from the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. The inspecting officer shall determine whether the said reptiles are securely, properly, and safely
penned. In the event that the reptiles are not safely penned, the inspecting officer
shall report the situation in writing to the person or firm owning the said reptiles.
Failure of the owner or exhibitor to correct the situation within 30 days after such written notice shall be grounds for revocation of the license or permit of said owner or exhibitor.
History.—s. 2, ch. 57-415; s. 169, ch. 99-245.

http://www.myfwc.com/faq/captive.html#372.901

If you have not had the State inspect you and have the States permits you can be in a world of violation troubles you may want to call them before they come calling.

Here is the FL VENOMOUS PERMIT LAW REQUIREMENTS

Page 1 2
MEMORANDUM August 9, 2002
TO: Reptile and Frog Dealers, Collectors, and Interested Persons
FROM: Colonel Julie Jones Director, Division of Law Enforcement
SUBJECT: Reptile and Amphibian Regulations
Individuals (both resident and nonresident) may collect non-protected and non-regulated species of reptiles and amphibians for personal use (on lands on which one has permission)
without special permits or other authorization. Collecting for the purpose of sale, or collecting venomous species, requires licenses/ permits as noted below. This memorandum will provide
information on all protected and regulated species of herptiles in Florida.
Attached is a copy of the rules implementing sections 372.86 through 372.91, Florida Statutes. Below are relevant portions of Rules 68A-25.002 and 68A-25.006, Florida Administrative Code,
as well as portions of other rules relating to the possession and sale of reptiles and frogs in Florida.

In order to possess venomous reptile species, a license is required. The cost of this license is $5 per year. If you plan to exhibit the venomous reptiles at any time during the year, you must
post a $1,000 surety bond payable to the Governor of Florida. Please refer to Florida Statutes 372.88. The surety bond must be for a period of not less than one year. You may contact your
Insurance Agent for additional bond information. Please attach the bond to your completed application and return it to us.


In order to sell venomous reptile species and/ or exhibit or sell non-venomous reptiles or amphibians, you must also complete an application for the Exhibition or Sale of Wildlife. The
cost of the license varies depending on the number of specimens. The cost of the license for less than eleven specimens is $5 per year. The cost for 11 or more specimens is $25. Please
refer to the attached application( s).
As provided by Florida Administrative Code 68A-25.002 (15), after July 1, 1990, any person or entity not currently permitted to possess or exhibit venomous reptile species must qualify for a
permit by meeting the following criteria:
1) Demonstrate no less than one year of substantial, practical experience (to consist of no less than 1000 hours) in the care, feeding, handling, and husbandry of the species
for which the permit is sought, or other species within the same biological order, which are substantially similar in size, characteristics, care and nutritional
requirements to the species for which the permit is sought. 1
1 Page 2 3
Reptile and Amphibian Regulations August 9, 2002
Page 2


For the purposes of demonstrating compliance applicants shall submit documentation of such experience, including: a description of the experience
acquired, the dates the experience was obtained, and the specific location( s) where acquired, and references of no less than two individuals having personal
knowledge of your stated experience. Personal reference letters do not need to be authored by venomous reptile permittees. Additional documentation may include
records of prior permits for the keeping of venomous reptiles, employment records, or any other competent documentation of the requisite experience.


2) Documented educational experience in zoology or other relevant biological sciences obtained at the college or technical school or above may substitute for up
to six months or 500 hours of the required experience.
(3) Shall not have been convicted of a violation of venomous reptile regulations for three years prior to application for such permit.


4) Must be at least 18 years old at the time of application.

Full text version at
http://access.adobe.com/perl/convertPDF.pl

All the permits and requirements can be viewed at http://myfwc.com/permits/

The fee's have not been changed as of this date. You may want to reveiw them for your own legal safety if you were given bad advise from someone you can be held accountable by FLFWC.

Hope this may save you some grief.
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