Comment of the ft/live myth -.-

[Timotea]

Ok ok people


Before your ranting and snorting why in the heck would you bann bpkid? I'm talking to him on another forum and apparently people are being so stuckup that he thinks live is ok to feed. It is ok if you are watching the snake and have it in for only a short period of time. But (edited by Megan)..... you banned him for saying his mind? Thats kinda against the moral of this country don't you think? The snakes in the wild get bit all the time. Its his problem if the snake gets bit. Probley won't be somthing unexpecting of a snake.

Now if you guys ban me this will make my point even better. You should be rather openminded. Just like this argument. Feeding live isn't always bad. But you think its the devil. Thats all i have to say.

Yours truly,
Tim norton

P.S.,
Its funny how a 13 year old and put up some good arguments at times. I know my history and some politics. Redneck politics mostley

[SnakeCollector]

i havent read any of it im gonna go read some

[Timotea]

Good. Man i hate people that are mean to people who speak there own mind. I still say that FT is the safest but man. Some poeple find their snake moves better attacking live than somthing thats practicly sitting still. Then you get the people that like things that are dieing... Sorry i have talked to a person like this...

[SnakeCollector]

so bpkid got banned from the site or what

[Timotea]

Yes i was talking to him and he apparently got banned for speaking his mind. It ticks me off. so this is kinda a way to get my anger out for both him and me

[SnakeCollector]

thats messed up

[Timotea]

I know. Funny not many people are flaming me. Mabey i did some in your face action 0.o

[SnakeCollector]

especially since bpkid was here for 2 years

[SnakeCollector]

why are there no Warnings: 2 on your first post but there on your other post
Warnings Level: 4

[Timotea]

We are on ball-pythons.net forums. Kinda like here but not as strict. People there are great. I'm not saying people here are horrible but its the same kinda help. Louise you should check it out mabey people there could use some of your tips you always have ^^ I'm trying to convince some to come here but i found out that alot of them were acually here before and some are people who got banned. Its rather funny stories. I'm kinda confuzed but still mad. BPkid helped me alot for i'm soon to get a ball python. So did all you guys.

[Timotea]

Oh they warned me twice. See they don't like my first post. Both mods. So they deside to make my warning worse. Funny how people are

[BWSmith]

Firstly, I just looked up his account and he is not banned. The thread was closed due to repetitive and useless arguments that are already preexisting.

The bottom line is that there is no "safe" way to feed live prey rodents. There are things you can do to minimize the risk, but absolutely nothing you can do to eliminate the risk. People often say that they watch closely. That may reduce the risk of repeated bites from the rodent. But it is useless for sudden trauma because noone can move fast enough to stop such an event. An important thing to remember is that some of us have seen how quickly the damage can be done first hand. I watched as a mouse severed the spine of a Pygmy Rattlesnake in a single bite. No warning. No time to react. It was done in the blink of an eye. I also witnessed a large rat kill a 5' Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake with a lucky bite to the brain. Again, no way to stop it.

So while there may be ways to lessen the risk of feeding live, it cannot be eliminated. This is why F/T or P/K is recommended. When done properly, they eliminate the risk all together. And there are virtually no snakes (that naturally take rodent prey) that cannot be switched to f/t. This is particularly true of the common snakes such as Ball Pythons, Boas, Burms, Kings, Ratsnakes, etc. There are obscure species that may take some work, but 99.99% can be switched over. So there is really no reason not to use F/T, while there is much evidence showing the potential health concerns (parasites, etc) and risk of physical trauma of feeding live rodents.

I will qualify all of that with the fact that when i refer to live rodent prey, I am referring to prey large enough to be able to bite. This does not include rat/mouse pinkies or fuzzies.

[louise]

Originally Posted by Timotea

We are on ball-pythons.net forums. Kinda like here but not as strict. People there are great. I'm not saying people here are horrible but its the same kinda help. Louise you should check it out mabey people there could use some of your tips you always have ^^ I'm trying to convince some to come here but i found out that alot of them were acually here before and some are people who got banned. Its rather funny stories. I'm kinda confuzed but still mad. BPkid helped me alot for i'm soon to get a ball python. So did all you guys.

if it is a bunch of people saying live is okay i would be banned the first 10 minutes. but thanks for the offer