Rats frozen live?

[Razaiel]

Well my daughter was told quite a while ago by somebody "who should know" that the rodents are all thrown in the freezer while still alive ... well I really do hope it's a tall tale - everytime I take a poor little rodent out the freezer and see it curled up as though trying to keep itself warm - I cringe but I can just imagine from big business point of view it would be quicker that way - I just hope this isn't true...

We live in the UK but I guess it doesn't (or shouldn't) make any difference.

[louise]

some people do that. i feel it isn't humane at all. some people use CO2 tanks. i just grab mine by the tail and smack them hard into the floor or wall.

[Htdg666]

Theres all different ways those mice can go... but does she think that being constricted is much better than being frozen?

[VoodooChile]

Freezing would be much worse IMO.. I dont know ANY reputable frozen feeder suppliers who use this technique. Even the local guy I used for feeders gassed his..That way they just go to sleep and dont wake up again. Much more humane than freezing!
I get really miffed at Pet stores that freeze injured or sick animals.

	In My Opinon IMO = In My Opinion and IMHO = In My Honest Opinion

[Razaiel]

If you mean does my daughter mean being constricted is better? - the answer is a definite no. I guess we just had this notion in the back of our minds of all these little mice etc being gassed and going to sleep and then frozen when dead. We have never (and would never) feed live. Besides - you can't buy live rodents as feeders in the UK as you can in the US.

[VoodooChile]

Originally Posted by Razaiel

If you mean does my daughter mean being constricted is better? - the answer is a definite no. I guess we just had this notion in the back of our minds of all these little mice etc being gassed and going to sleep and then frozen when dead. We have never (and would never) feed live. Besides - you can't buy live rodents as feeders in the UK as you can in the US.

Too bad it really isnt like that in the US..Its commonplace to see live feeders.
I understand there is the RARE occurence a snake wont eat live..but its usually VERY rare and with WC snakes.

	Wild caught wild caught

[Razaiel]

Originally Posted by amercnwmn

Too bad it really isnt like that in the US..Its commonplace to see live feeders.
I understand there is the RARE occurence a snake wont eat live..but its usually VERY rare and with WC snakes.

I've heard that a few times on forums where people have w/c ones that just won't eat frozen/thawed - even when people do the zombie mouse dance with them and heat them with hairdryers, brain them and all sorts - I suppose there's always some that just refuse - their little snakey brain tells them somewhere that something isn't quite right.

	Wild caught wild caught

[Htdg666]

mousicide is a topic thats not much touched on... i have no idea how they put the mice out at my herp stores, but this does sound like the best way to do it...

" the local guy I used for feeders gassed his "

[VoodooChile]

Originally Posted by Razaiel

I've heard that a few times on forums where people have w/c ones that just won't eat frozen/thawed - even when people do the zombie mouse dance with them and heat them with hairdryers, brain them and all sorts - I suppose there's always some that just refuse - their little snakey brain tells them somewhere that something isn't quite right.

lmao...usually its something to do with the way we are offering and when...
at least thats what Ive been told Ive had a few I SWORE would not eat f/t...We did the back and forth, so no wonder they wouldnt eat it..
Finally I put my foot down and apparently my BP knew I meant business, she ate it with no problems.

	Ball Python The Ball Python (Python regius), also known as the Royal Python, is a ground dwelling snake native to the savannahs and rain forests in western Africa, predominatly the countries of Ghana, Togo, and Benin.

	Frozen/Thawed A rodent or other prey item that is frozen and then thawed to be fed to a reptile or other animal.