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Old 12-10-2006, 06:12 PM
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if anyone here is against hybridising or morphs do what i do, don't buy them.

i could care less if other people by them but i will not. i believe nature did it best and has the best looking snakes. the only questionable one i have is a tiger retic, but supposedly they were found naturally, when i tried to track their breeding history.

again though this is for the money. if this guy wanted to help, he should breed savanna monitors, niles and waters. these are each bought W/C for $5-$10 then sold from $20-$150. anyone who has looked into captive breeding monitors knows not only is it difficult but the market price won't even pay for a weeks food.

so again buy what you want i have nothing against any of this but do not act like he is doing anything to help the herp society. he is finding another fun way to make money.
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They are different subspecies and even that's highly questionable. Color variations shouldn't be enough to get a new subspeices. I'm not into things with legs so maybe I'm missing something. Is there something else besides color that seperates them? Scales or something?
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Old 12-10-2006, 09:54 PM
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Someone seems to have cut corners in the Tupinambis taxonomy. I hate that there doesn't seem to be any rules. They only gave each one 2 names which causes what should be subspecies to be considered technically it's own species. Call it what you want to. They are subspecies. I'm sorry that lazy scientists forgot to give them middle names...OR perhaps middle names should be dropped all around. It's pretty much just semantics anyway.
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Afte goggling I have failed to find any of Rick Sisco's scientific credentials. This is not to say he doesn't know what he's talking about mind you. I mean Al Sharpton knows politics but I don't buy everything he writes. LOL!
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no he didn't write it though

Source: “A new species of Tupinambis, Daudin, 1803 from southeastern Brazil (Squamata, Teiidae)” by P.R. Manzani and A.S. Abe, 2002. Arquivos do Museu Nacional, Rio de Janeiro, v.60, n.4,p.295-302.
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Alright all those who dont like hybrids, just dont buy them.

Those who like them, then go right ahead. Its not like your going to fill the tegu market with a bunch of hybrids. Why? Because this was a 1 in a 100000 chance of happening. Its been tried for several years.