Bufo alvarius??

[atheris]

in ontario canada, looking for b.alvarius. adults, juvies, breeding pairs, whatever i can track down!! anybody got any ideas? without a trip to arizona, that is!!! thanks!
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[telefrag]

I dont even want to know why your wanting these (although I will say its overratted whatever they say about the poison, not that I would know )
But in most states its legal to own a few, but I think it is still illegal to collect them in a few states they occur in.

Check glades herp, they had some a few months ago, they may have them now.

But I dont know the stipulations for shipping over the border.
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[herpkingdom]

I believe it is illegal to import these into Canada.

Canada has soe strict regualtions on the type of reptiles and amphibians they allow people to keep as pets. In most countries, there are strict regulations about bringing in non-native toads species because of the problems that happened when the Can Toad was introduced. THey have the endency to take over the natural ecosystem and destroy the habitats for the natice species.

So check into your local as well as federal goverment regs about what you are allowed to have.
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[atheris]

you are most likely correct about the border thing, jim, and as faar as local and canadian laws regarding the keeping of these beautiful big cuties, well, i just won't voice my opinion, for the sake of , just nevermind! i am hoping that perhaps one of the few canadian members might come across this request and just happen to be able to help me out here.
and 'booger man', (i'm not being a prick here!)you are right about "not that you would know" part of your reply, other than that, thanks, but i do not need to be educated by someone who has really no idea. i am looking for these animals because i am very aware of the benefits of keeping them as pets, as i have done so for many years,and know PLENTY about them. i gave my guys away, and because they were all males, they enede up dieing off before me or my friend who took over caring for the toads could find them a lover. so-o....here i am, toadless, and missing my 'warty' buddies! so please, anybody out there reading this, preferably in canada, that has any idea where i can get some Bufo alvirius, please let me know. thanks!
p.s. anyone with the idea that these toads are used by 'drug addicts' for recreation or because they've become addicted, would do well to do some searches on the internet about just what it is all about. any one who has used these toads to try and party, well, they'd be very disappointed, and quite possibly worse. me, i just like the way they look.
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[telefrag]

They are pretty, the only reason I would want to question someone owning them is the legal hassles involved.

I think they are very interesting, and I have known people to have them, and they made great captives.

I just wouldnt want to deal with the "what are you going to do with them" factor of having some as pets.

Here in TX I think you can legally "own" a pair, but I dont think you can capture them yourself, but Im not 100% sure of the rules regarding that, as the laws have changed here a few times over the last few years.

good luck.
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