Do Not Buy A Cage From Josh Sharp - mushu1432@aol.com

[SteveJor]

Here is a warning to anyone who saw his ads for a new line of caging and thought about giving him a chance.
Don't.
He will send you garbage and not care.
This is my experience. I have also attached some photos of the cage. More are at this link.
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[PythonGuy21]

wow that is sad, im not going to spend time deburing rough edges. what a bad attitude. i build custom enclosures and mine are amazing.
ill post some pics of mine. double hinged tops, can have front opening doors this one doesnt. 4 locks, custom paint job, camo, tiled water proof interrior.
let me take some pics for you

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[PythonGuy21]

here are the pics,

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[SteveJor]

Now THAT is a cage!

Man, I wish I knew you did that before I dealt with this loser.

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[PythonGuy21]

yeah im sry you got screwed. my cages are a little more expensive but that comes from quality. im a one man buisness i build quality rather than quanity, so you get what you pay for. i charge 1500.00 for mine but there is a fair amount of time that goes into them. a lot of these other big companies charge much more than that i have seen a average of 2,000-6000 for a 6x2x2 foot cage. and again im sry you got ripped off.

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[Cameron...G]

Pythonguy those are some nice cages you build there man!
And steve sorry about your misfortune! Thats sucks.
What are you gonna do? Does he do refunds or what?

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[PythonGuy21]

thank you cameron 15, i would possible involve a small claims court. depending on how bad the cage actually is, pictures dont really do it justice, if it posses a saftey hazard for your animal i would return and demand a refund

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[stalk]

Originally Posted by PythonGuy21

yeah im sry you got screwed. my cages are a little more expensive but that comes from quality. im a one man buisness i build quality rather than quanity, so you get what you pay for. i charge 1500.00 for mine but there is a fair amount of time that goes into them. a lot of these other big companies charge much more than that i have seen a average of 2,000-6000 for a 6x2x2 foot cage. and again im sry you got ripped off.

I'm not trying to pick on you or anything. But I'm wondering why you charge $1,500 for a cage like that? Don't get me wrong, it looks nice! I am in the process of designing a 8x4x6 cage and the quality is great. And it will cost me $400 to build it, approximately. And it'll take only about 8 hours to build it, at most.

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[tokaysrnice]

I was wondering that too. I could build a heluva cage for $1500

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[danktat]

Thanks for the heads up.

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[PythonGuy21]

why do you pay 30,000 for a car that cost 10,000
why do you pay what you pay for a lot of things, you
pay 200,000 for a home that cost 70,000.00

its a business. and its cheaper than most of your online snake builders. check out cages by design they are outragous.

[tokaysrnice]

yeah but cages by design makes an incredible product for $1500

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[stalk]

Well yes, I'm not arguing markup to make a profit. But even as a hvac installer, I make about 50 a hour. And building cages is easy work comparatively. 8 hours work is what, 400 dollars. And 200 in material. Maybe another 100 in equipment wear and tear.

I haven't seen cages by design, but check out Tom's cages. He uses carpentry for his cages. Makes some amazing looking cages, and a lot of work goes into his cages. 2 days work would not suprise me in the least.

I mean, you can charge whatever you want. I'm not trying to argue costs here, I only build cages for myself and any friends, I don't see much of a business here when boaphile cages cost 600 for a big one with the bells and whistles.

I can't imagine asking a 1000 dollar markup in such a low demand market. But if you can get it then great! Makes no difference to me either way.

Originally Posted by PythonGuy21

why do you pay 30,000 for a car that cost 10,000
why do you pay what you pay for a lot of things, you
pay 200,000 for a home that cost 70,000.00
its a business. and its cheaper than most of your online snake builders. check out cages by design they are outragous.

[ja-rod4545]

Originally Posted by PythonGuy21

yeah im sry you got screwed. my cages are a little more expensive but that comes from quality. im a one man buisness i build quality rather than quanity, so you get what you pay for. i charge 1500.00 for mine but there is a fair amount of time that goes into them. a lot of these other big companies charge much more than that i have seen a average of 2,000-6000 for a 6x2x2 foot cage. and again im sry you got ripped off.

who charges 2,ooo for that?

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[ja-rod4545]

Originally Posted by PythonGuy21

thank you cameron 15, i would possible involve a small claims court. depending on how bad the cage actually is, pictures dont really do it justice, if it posses a saftey hazard for your animal i would return and demand a refund

Have you had any previous involment in a claims case??????????????

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[ja-rod4545]

Originally Posted by tokaysrnice

yeah but cages by design makes an incredible product for $1500

yea but they are AMAZING!

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[Smits]

Wow, $1500!
These two would've cost about 300 a piece to make! And one is 8 feet long.

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[ja-rod4545]

Nice!!!! SS.

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[morti]

This is not the BOI. While I appreciate that you want to give us a heads up, Let's just leave it at that.

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[PythonGuy21]

Originally Posted by ssjsmits

Wow, $1500!
These two would've cost about 300 a piece to make! And one is 8 feet long.

your cages arnt as eloborite as mine either, mine had a lot of detail into them
5 layers of paint for the camo, the interrior work, mine cost about 400 in materials. and people who buy cages arnt DIY'ers they are looking for something they like, and i have quite a few interest in my cages
i also come from a custom building background with homes, decks, ect and people pay a lot of money for something just for them.

good luck with dealing with your cage buyer.

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