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Old 01-12-2003, 09:23 AM
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Finally some good news about a rescue/rehab after what we had here yesterday. About a week ago I received an email from someone whos had just purchased a couple of neonate salmon boas. They had just gotten them a couple of hours previously and set them up in their new homes. They bought a pair. The male was doing fine. The female however was not. By the time the person received a reply from me on their first email they had sent. The snake was even worse than what they wrote me about going on. First off let me say,
The vet that they use for their reptiles had "faith lost" issues as far as this person was concerned.
This took place on Saturday evening.
They could not find another vet in their area that knows reptiles.

The snake according to the first email was dehydrated, underweight, non-feeding for awhile
[ found that out when they got the snakes], RI [ popping, wheezing, mucous etc], ..think that was all in the original email. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]
I sent an email asking more questions.
In reply I was now told that the snake was not righting itself when it got turned over..UGH. [got flipped over when the owner moved the hide to check on the snake]
By this point the owner was freaking big time. Think I received about a dozen emails over the next couple of hours even in regards to this snake and what to do for it. I went over temps, husbandry, meds needed, therapy needed for some of the issues going on etc in multiple emails to the owner during the course of the night.

The owner has a friend that is a vet, but of course they do not do reptiles at all, just dogs/cats basically. I passed emails to the vet for information on what needed to be done, but not till like the 2nd day later. This vet is/was more than willing to help out np, but just needed some information in relation to snakes was all first.
I got the dosing for the Baytril the snake needed for the RI from Julius. [ It was decided that Baytril would be held off for now till the snake was rehydrated more so though.]
This person lives in Florida somewhere in the area that Fazed and Repscue are located, or nearby somewhat. So I got the name and info of the vet that repscue works for that takes care of reptiles also and passed it on to the owner of the snake. [not sure if the owner contacted this vet or her friend whose a vet consulted with him at all or not though.
This snake would not even try to drink at all. I didn't want to have the owner do a soak for dehydration due to the RI going on either. Sooo I spent about an hour on the phone with the person on Sunday going over with them, and walking them through tubing a mixture for nutrients and hydration into the snake step by step. [I]When no tubing equip. is available, yes ya can actually make do with an eye dropper for a neonate snake..UGH. Found that out real quick. [ I have what's needed here for tubing a snake, owner had nothing there at all for such]. This snake was going downhill fast and either was having some sort of neuro problem due to the hydration thing at this point possibly or the topic of the dreaded IBD was asked about as a possibility by the owner..UGH. . [Owner got the needed supplies for tubing the next day/Monday from her vet friend..TG.]

I continued going back and forth in email with the owner of the snake, still doing such also. She sends daily updates on how the snake is progressing and any questions her or her vet friend have in regards to the snake and it's issues. I also received this from her recently in email....[parts of the email..]

<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE> Lori I can't believe the turn around of this animal. I really
thought she was a goner! You'd think it was a new snake. She's also much
more hydrated, to the point where she may even be considered normal
hydration. She is thermoregulating now. The baby ate a mouse pink last night! She seems much more active now, tongue and all. There's hope for her still from the sounds of it thogh ;} </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

Hopefully this one will make it [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

NOTE : This snake was offered for sale on KS classifieds with it's clutchmates recently. The snake offered and sold by a herp dealer in the state of Florida. PLEASE , when buying a new addition to your herp family .. make sure the dealer is reputable and you know what their husbandry is like also...PRIOR TO PURCHASE
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This is great news Lori, congradulations on all your efforts. This to me is what online communities should be, and I am thankful that such a vast amount of knowledge is not only available to us oldtimers (I never wanted to hear myself use that phrase!), but also to anyone who stands up and asks for it. I too am happy that this is working out for the best.
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Great to hear Lori! I hope I don't see them for their sake. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Old 01-15-2003, 08:57 AM
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<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE>I don't see them for their sake.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

Me too [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] Still going well for this snake from what I am being told in email too still. So maybe ya won't hear from them at all. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
THANX to all of you that handed over various info in relation to this one too. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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Hi Lori and everyone,

Found the site...was so engrossed at reading your replies to my emails that I never actually saw the links on the bottom of the letters [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

I wanted to post a letter to once again thank Lori, without her help this snake would have definiately died during that first week. What Lori didn't mention to you all is that she stayed with me via emails and on the phone the entire night till the wee hours of the morning, she got me as well as my new baby through a really tough night, not usually an insomniac I couldn't sleep at all worrying about my snake.

As I've told Lori previous I really can not believe the turnaround this animal has made. I've worked for Vets in a limited capacity in the past and my parents also owned a pet shop for a number of years so I do have a bit of experience in nursing sick mammals and birds but unfortunately not much nursing skills with reptiles (luckily mine have all been healthy) I've never in all those years seen a critter make such a remarkable recovery in just one week. 'Lori' as she is now named is fully recovered and has been feeding, drinking is fully hydrated and showing her beautiful Salmon coloring as if she had never been ill. Also a bit of swelling in her bottom jaw is completely gone.

I'm hoping that in four years or so I'll be able to send Lori one of Salmon Lori's babies as her way of saying thanks [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] Also many thanks to all of you that relayed information for Lori to give me. Luckily we didn't need to utilize the Baytril or the Vet recommended but the info has been stored in my computer and if we need help in the future I'll know where to go.

Also I do feel the need to put in a good word for the dealer who sold me this snake. Not sure if I mentioned this to Lori but she was sold to me at a greatly reduced price (less than most common colored BCI's) because of the dehydration/not feeding/thin problem. I bought her 'as is' thinking that I could rely on the old standby's of soaking, raising humidity, perhaps even force feeding pinkie parts if it came to that. I was prepared for all this, what threw me into a tailspin was when she started showing RI problems shortly after arriving home. Since all the treatments for dehydration conflict with treatments for RI's I was totally at a loss as to what to do for her!! [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img] I contacted the dealer just to give him a heads up on the situation...Florida had been in the middle of a very unusual cold snap and I feared that the lower temps may have caused the illness in my baby. The dealer was very concerned and ended up bringing the rest of the babies home with him so that he could monitor them and give them additional heat if needed. He also offered to make restitution should the snake die (this even though I had purchased the animal 'as is'). He offered many suggestions for treatment, which I didn't need to follow since I had gotten the very best treatment recs from Lori. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] So while it was a really frightful situation I can't really blame the dealer...more so blame myself for getting in over my head LOL.

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