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License to Kill Gopher Tortoises?

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A LICENSE TO KILL GOPHER TORTOISES
The Program That Allows Burying Them Alive Is Ending, But That May Not Help Much
Craig Pittman, St. Petersburg Times (7 May 2007)

Workers buried the 30-pound Gopher Tortoise (Gopherus polyphemus) on a Lee County construction site, its shell crushed by a backhoe. Two weeks later, despite a spinal injury, the determined tortoise dug its way out. The remarkable resurrection led a wildlife expert to nickname the 16-inch-long tortoise "Phoenix." It was the largest Gopher Tortoise ever found in the wild. It died last week.

For 16 years, Florida officials have allowed developers to bury Gopher Tortoises alive and pave over their burrows, in exchange for paying money into a fund to buy land for tortoises elsewhere. Because of their low metabolic rate, tortoises can take months to suffocate under convenience store parking lots, shopping centers and new subdivisions.

By this year, the state's pay-to-pave program had issued permits to bury more than 94,000 Gopher Tortoises. Now the species is in sharp decline, and tortoise experts blame the permitting program.

"It's a massive loss of tortoises, " said George Heinrich of Heinrich Ecological Services in St. Petersburg and a former co-chairman of the Gopher Tortoise Council, a group of biologists concerned about the animal's future.

State wildlife officials have decided to end the program by 31 July 2007, prompting a rush by developers to beat the deadline. Up to a dozen applications a week have been sent in for the last permits to kill Gopher Tortoises, according to Rick McCann, who runs the permit program for the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.

Four months ago, for instance, the Orlando-Orange County Expressway Authority got a permit to kill more than 400 Gopher Tortoises whose burrows were in the path of a new highway. Before the bulldozers could crank up, the Humane Society of the United States lodged a protest. Last month the expressway authority agreed to drop its plans to kill the tortoises and agreed to move them to a Gopher Tortoise preserve area in the 48, 000-acre Nokuse Plantation in the Panhandle.

The Humane Society is eager to see the pay-to-pave program end, said Jennifer Hobgood, program coordinator in the society's Tallahassee regional office. But Hobgood is concerned about the rush to beat the deadline. The permits the state wildlife commission are issuing now have no expiration date, so developers who get them can use them any time in the future. "They would be permitted to kill limitless numbers of tortoises indefinitely, " Hobgood said.

No one knows for sure how many Gopher Tortoises there are, but there are more in Florida than anywhere else. But the habitat Gopher Tortoises favor also is popular with developers. By 2003, more than 1.7-million acres of Florida land that was once tortoise habitat had been turned into home sites, roads, shopping centers and the like, according to the wildlife commission. In 1979, state wildlife officials included them on a list of imperiled animals as a "species of special concern." That meant no one could harm or harass one without the state's permission.

Since 1991, developers who wanted to build in Gopher Tortoise habitat could choose between two state-authorized solutions: write a check to the state and pave over the burrows, suffocating the occupants; or pay someone to find all the gopher tortoises and move them. Moving the tortoises was the feel-good choice, McCann said, but it didn't always work. The tortoises often tried to find their way home, only to be run over. Or they carried a respiratory disease that then spread to other tortoises already on their new home turf. For a while, the state required developers who wanted to relocate Gopher Tortoises to pay to test them for the disease first, making that option much more expensive than paying to kill the tortoises.

McCann contended that the pay-to-pave program was, in a way, better for Gopher Tortoises, because the money collected from developers was used to buy and preserve 25, 000 acres of tortoise habitat. But that makes up for only one-fifth of the habitat that's been wiped out, Hobgood said. Meanwhile, the government has sanctioned suffocating tens of thousands of the animals.

In a report last summer, a panel of state wildlife experts estimated that the population of Gopher Tortoises in Florida has declined by more than half in the past 60 to 90 years. That persuaded state officials to take the first step toward bumping the tortoise up to "threatened, " one rung below "endangered." The change is long overdue, said Matt Aresco, conservation director of Nokuse Plantation.
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Re: License to Kill Gopher Tortoises?

geeze......

I cant believe people
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I never would have thunk it
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Re: License to Kill Gopher Tortoises?

that makes me sick, brings new light to the "out of sight, out of mind" way of thinking.

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Re: License to Kill Gopher Tortoises?

Yeah it made me pretty sick to read it. Thanks to Sal @ WNC Herps for posting it on another forum
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dear god...i think im going to be ill.
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Re: License to Kill Gopher Tortoises?

things like that just (edit) me off. here, how about i bury them alive because i wanna build a parking lot and infringe on thier space. lets see how they like that
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