Ball Python Breeding Banned in Pleasant Grove

[Xeikeness]

Originally Posted by unluckyseventeen

I disagree with most of the responses here.
Seeing as how I live in the valley, I can tell you that the less people we have here breeding snakes that won't find homes and will eventually find pet shops - it's better for the snake community. Every pet store I go into these days has way too many snakes than it can handle - most of them adults coming from people that don't want them anymore or don't care about them.
Look at the big picture here, guys.
I think it is a good idea, and I wish people were absolutely not allowed to breed unless they had a permit. The market is way too flooded with snakes that just wind up in bad homes and die because there are just too many of them to go around. People also think "hey, I can make a lot of money off this!", which is the reason most of them try to breed in the first place and it just causes a ton more problems than it answers.

Very, very true. If the breeding is taking place in an area where there are already too many to find homes for, then it's a good thing. And I agree that anyone wanting to breed snakes(myself included) should have to have a permit, first.

Mostly, it's the reasoning we don't agree with, I think. They said nothing about permits, they said "no" to breeding BP's mainly because The People think they're dangerous, which I don't think is OK, myself.

I see where you're coming from, and I can appreciate that in that area there could already be too many snakes to sell or care for. I can also appreciate how this would be a GREAT thing for the reptiles in that area. it's the -reasoning- for the ban in this particular instance that's so irksome.

	Ball Python The Ball Python (Python regius), also known as the Royal Python, is a ground dwelling snake native to the savannahs and rain forests in western Africa, predominatly the countries of Ghana, Togo, and Benin.

[unluckyseventeen]

Originally Posted by owen.richards

i didnt think id see the day that they ban breeding, especially ball pythons, why them, so carpets, boas, burms, retics, anacondas, whatever else are allowed to be bred but not balls?

Maybe they have a big population of them there. I don't know... there could be hundreds of reasons.

A lot of you here are taking it as legislation just "hating" on the breed and condemning them. I think it is an overall good decision, because you can get balls from anywhere and everywhere. One place putting a ban on their breeding is just helping the cause, and if it were up to me, I'd make it mandatory to have a permit to legally breed ANYTHING. The market is far too flooded with animals that do not get good homes, and just die because of irrisponsible ownership. Whether or not it's a direct result of irrisponsible breeders (which is what this is cutting down on), I don't know. Overall it's a good decision.

Afterall, they're saying you cannot BREED them there, not that you cannot own them there. What is everyone's big deal about it? If they put a nationwide ban on recreationally breeding Burms or something, I'd be all for it. Most of you here would take it as them "hating" on the snake community, and that's a pretty short-sighted response.

[owen.richards]

Originally Posted by New_BP_Guy

BP breeding is the biggest craze right now since the snakes sell for so much and they are so easy to breed...

yah yourm right come to think of it like 90% when someone wants to breed something they want ball pythons

[unluckyseventeen]

Originally Posted by Xeikeness

Very, very true. If the breeding is taking place in an area where there are already too many to find homes for, then it's a good thing. And I agree that anyone wanting to breed snakes(myself included) should have to have a permit, first.
Mostly, it's the reasoning we don't agree with, I think. They said nothing about permits, they said "no" to breeding BP's mainly because The People think they're dangerous, which I don't think is OK, myself.
I see where you're coming from, and I can appreciate that in that area there could already be too many snakes to sell or care for. I can also appreciate how this would be a GREAT thing for the reptiles in that area. it's the -reasoning- for the ban in this particular instance that's so irksome.

Ah, yes. A lot of things relating to snakes and people being afraid of them, are irksome. It's still a good decision in the long-run though. With responsible breeders, owners and a good community, it may make a turn for the better in the future.

Problem is most people see an exotic animal and want to breed it like crazy to make money. So, overall this is just an act of irrisponsibility on both fronts. At least they can still own them there, so the only thing it's eliminating is people thinking "hey, I can make some money off this thing!!" and that's always good.

	Ball Python The Ball Python (Python regius), also known as the Royal Python, is a ground dwelling snake native to the savannahs and rain forests in western Africa, predominatly the countries of Ghana, Togo, and Benin.

[NycFlip22]

Thats rediculous and the arguments against breeding are weak. I would assume if the Cantells had a decent lawyer, they could've won the case.

[deadliestformula]

Originally Posted by New_BP_Guy

BP breeding is the biggest craze right now since the snakes sell for so much and they are so easy to breed...

I don't really think they are as 'easy' as most would like to think. Think about how long it takes to grow them up to breeding size. Then think that a 'good' clutch is what? like 7 eggs. Part of the reason that the bp morphs are holding such a high price is because they take so long to work out. And you don't get the 'high' yeild clutches you get with something like burms that will drop closer to 50 eggs in a clutch. Even boas will yeild you around 20 babies for a clutch.

And the councilman didn't say that BP's were dangerous, only that a permit system should be in effect, in essence, they do kind of have a right to ban home based business and require that an area be zoned for commercial or agriculture before allowing a type of business to be operated there.

What I disagree with is the uneducated comments about odor, disposal of waste, and escapee's harming the neighborhood. Those reasons could have been left out and just blocked the business because the area was not properly zoned for commercial. Bringing false information into a permit hearing is ludacris if you ask me.

	Morph A morph is a color or pattern variation that is proven to be genetic. Common morphs include albino, anerythristic, gentically striped, Hypomelanistic, and many others. Morphs also include combinations of simple traits such as "Sunglow" which is Albino and Hypomelanistic. These traits may be recessive traits, co-dominant traits, dominant traits, or created through selective breeding (ie Pastel).

[Xeikeness]

Originally Posted by unluckyseventeen

Ah, yes. A lot of things