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Old 11-04-2009, 06:51 AM
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ok, just this one time, I am allowing spamming of the forums because this is so important. Other admins may not. PLEASE CALL!!!
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I'm going to call first thing when I get up.

Can Some one please Verify this, I thought that this was stop in the house some time ago.
Last update I could find was back in July '09
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This is one of those moments where it sucks to be nocturnal. I will do my best to stay awake long enough to call.
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is this like, nationwide?
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ok, just this one time, I am allowing spamming of the forums because this is so important. Other admins may not. PLEASE CALL!!!
I dont ever post here, this just cannot happen and I needed to make sure that people know. I didn't see it anywhere here, so I put it everywhere


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christ this will never end will it?......
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ok i looked into it a bit...im uncertain of things....is it banning ownership? is this gonna make it where we cant buy them even in our own state?

im against it no matter what, but im confused on some stuff
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Yea selling buying breeding
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so in other words, we are completly screwed. what is with this freaking country. free country my..... i am so sick of this retarded crap. this is our right to own these animals and just because some retard does to many drugs and cant get a REAL job the rest of us that work so flipping hard are screwed?
sometimes i hate this country..

what about the animals we already own?
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Yes it sucks the word need to get out and ppl need to understand its not a joke and it will happen you really wont be able to own these animals its not right
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why didn't we hear about this before? I mean, why didn't we worry sooner.
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Re: Stop this!!

I hope hope hope that this doesn't come to pass.
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Re: Stop this!!

Looks like I know where I'll be spending my lunch hour. *sigh* These people.
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Re: Stop this!!

I just called. I wish they would stop punishing the ones with a passion, and educated the people who are scared and uneducated.
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It's my day off but I'm going up to work to fax a statement to every single person on Jeff's list.
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This is HUGELY IMPORTANT and LIFE CHANGING either way it goes!!!! But more so if it goes the wrong way and only you can stop it.

All you guys, GO CALL and good, good, good luck!!!!!!!
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ok i looked into it a bit...im uncertain of things....is it banning ownership? is this gonna make it where we cant buy them even in our own state?

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The purpose of this bill is to amend the Lacy Act to include all snakes in the Genus Python. What this means to you is, no one will be allowed to cross state lines with any python. That means no Balls, No Burms, No Bloods.

That means that you could theoretically buy them within your own state, but the people who breed them cannot sell them outside your state. I can tell you personally that would mean I would no longer breed any of these species. There is simply not enough local demand to support it.

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The Fish and Wildlife Gestapo is not going to be knocking on your door. Unless you decide to move to another state one day and take your snakes with you.

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The USARK (the United States Association of Reptile Keepers) has been tracking this bill and its counterpart in the US Senate since they were written. Here is an official alert from them:

USARK • View topic - ALERT: Congressional Call In- Stop HR2811 Python Ban!

Please please please call everyone on that list TODAY. I am normally better about getting these notices from USARK out to you when I get them, but it has been a bad week.

If you have any more questions about what the law means, please let me know. Otherwise, all y'all had best start calling.

This is really important.
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I will be shamelessly bumping this topic quite a lot today.
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Bump....get those calls in folks
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