HEEEELLLLP!!! (with my dumerils...PLease!!!

[myhopper]

Hi, new to forums, but was wondering if could have some advice?
I have 2 11year old dumerils, thought they were both female, but last night (around 16 Hours ago) one of them had 4 babies!!!!, i have put all 4 babies in a tub in damp moss, i was wondering what i do now to ensure their survival????
also-i have always kept my dumerils together (had them for a year) but was wondering if this ok as i read that they could eat eachother!?!?!?!? and what of keeping the babies together???
thanks
Mike

[Joanna]

yikes!! Have a trawl through some of the previous threads, as this has happened before. One quite recently I think. the thread is something like 'surprise babies'. I would separate the two adults asap. I think you're ok keeping the babies together - separate from the adults right? Have a look at the thread and also in the breading forum, and that should give you some good tips.

[Joanna]

scrap that the 'surprise babies' thread isn't very helpful. Sorry!!

[myhopper]

Right- i've seperated the babies, and will try to feed them in the morning-will rub the fuzzies on my lizards first, also-if i have kept the 2 adults together for the last year-should they be kept seperate-or is this just with the babies?????
And i just checked their paperwork and it DOES say they are male and female!!!!9How stupid am i!!!!!!!)

[xxxjustinxxx]

never evr keep dumerils together unless your breeding. dumerisl are very territorial reptiles, a lady came in my store one time and was crying b/c her dum ate her BCi, she had them in a tote when she was moving ? i think this would be impossible if they were both female ? either you have a male you dont know about or one of them has had a sex change(almost impossible also) especially dont keep the babies to gether, the best thing you could do is buy 4 totes and 4 heat pads, i would only do that temporarily though. well good luck! i presonally have never worked with dums before, so im sure their will be other people that specialize in this breed to come buy and help you out more good luck.

	Boa Constrictor Imperator Boa Constrictor (Boa constrictor imperator). Most common is the Colombian Boa.

[Crotalus Ruber Keith]

Lucky you!!! Are you looking to sell any? Can you post pictures? Let us know. Thanks. Keith

[Shadrach]

Think I'd wait till after first shed before offering any food to them.

[CARLiTO_]

Keep the babies in small individual rubbermaids with a water bowl and adequate heat.

Feed them only after the first shed which should happen soon.

My guess is that one of ur dumeril females is actually a male although sperm retention could also be a possibility but a rare one.

[bleeding_sarcasm]

congrats, i love dumerils, if they dont eat f/t right off the bat [which they probably wont] try feeding live really tiny rat pups, you might get a better response with that. oh, and then send me a baby . dumerils can tend to be incredibly picky eaters, and really hard to switch over to f/t.

	Frozen/Thawed A rodent or other prey item that is frozen and then thawed to be fed to a reptile or other animal.

[ssscales]

Just place them in their own sterilte tubs, simple moist paper towl and a water bowl. Keep moist for the first few days and leave them alone. After a few 7-10 days remove paper towel and use Aspen or newspaper. At about 10 days offer a F/T weaned mouse, if they refuse try live.

Feed every 6-7 days and always try F/T first (try the usual teasing, leave the thawed mouse in the cage over night, etc). 90% of the time they will take F/T off the bat, at least mine have.

Good luck!

PS
I wouldn't keep any snakes together at all. Each one should have their own individual cage, just my $0.02.

	Frozen/Thawed A rodent or other prey item that is frozen and then thawed to be fed to a reptile or other animal.