Your one stop reptile community - Do Burms make good pets...just curious!!!

RoyalRazer · #1 (**permalink**) 05-06-2002, 12:22 AM

I know quite a lot of you on this site have burms, and you all say they make great pets! I know they grow big, but I was just curious about them.Could someone send me some info on them please. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

Oh, and I found this pic.I thought it might be Baby the burm!!! [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img] [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]null[/img][img]psmt0000[1][/img]
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RoyalRazer · #2 (**permalink**) 05-06-2002, 12:24 AM

Looks like the pic didn't come out the snake is over 10 metres definately!!! [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif[/img] [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif[/img] [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif[/img]
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#3 (**permalink**) 05-06-2002, 12:47 AM

Yeah I looked at what you placed for a link and umm I haven't a clue what ya were putting in there [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img] [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]

As for the burms... Sure they do..long as you have the experience and ability needed to properly handle and take care of them. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img] What's your experience with snakes anyway ? That would be where to start...
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Ravnos · #4 (**permalink**) 05-06-2002, 05:10 AM

10m is like 32' ... may be a big snake, but that is an unlikely size. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img]

Burms make good pets... for a very select few people in the herp community. I know experienced keepers who still aren't ready, and aren't willing to own burms - or any of the large constrictors for that matter. Getting one is not a decision to take as lightly as some people seem to. They are impressive animals, with more than enough capability to be imposing to even the most seasoned among us. Do your research, talk to everyone you can before buying - no one opinion is going to be enough to prepare anyone for keeping these animals, those of us who learned the hard way are probably the best to ask. =)

Rav

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Reticu-Lady · #5 (**permalink**) 05-07-2002, 09:32 AM

See if you can find a person locally that will allow you to handle their burm. Try to help clean an adult burm's cage (trust me, the burm owner would love you to volunteer to help with that somewhat unpleasant chore!) Ask that person to give you a run down on the expenses invloved with owning a creature as massive as a burm, remember, these guys live into their 20's so this is a long term 'investment.' Pictures of adult burms are impressive, but until you handle one, you will not be able to appreciate just how difficult a burm can be.
Another consideration for you, just because 'everybody' says burms are friendly, it does not mean they all really are. I have 3 burms, two are grumpy. Due to their extreme size and power, a little grumpy can be deadly. May I suggest a really nice bci? They are nice, grow to an impressive size (not to the burms ridiculous size), are relatively easy to care for and no where near as expensive. Although an adult bci can be somewhat dangerous, you are looking at a much more manageable animal. THe initial higher cost of a boa is very easily offset by the many advantages to owning a boa instead of a burm. If you are fully convinced that you must own a burmese, why not adopt one? There are probably thousands in rescue all waiting for a loving 'forever' home.
Best wishes for you whatever you decide!
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Dr.Oviparous · #6 (**permalink**) 05-07-2002, 09:45 AM

also make sure you are going to have someone around when it gets big that will help you, or atleast be there when you are handling her. -Juggalo
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impermanentrage · #7 (**permalink**) 05-07-2002, 10:57 AM

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The amount saved monetarily w/ a BCI vs. a burm is astronomical. Especially when one considers financial burdens due to the amount of food items an adult burm will consume to meet it's dietary needs. This alone will offset the initial cost. Not to mention, cost of housing and my personal observation that it doesn't take much to get an adult burm on the road to URI's.

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There has never been a reported case of a human death directly associated with BCI. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I lost count with burm associated deaths a long time ago. It's actuallt safer to keep some hots IMO.

Peace, love, and entropy,
Alex
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Burmiester · #8 (**permalink**) 05-08-2002, 07:28 AM

Hi, I've got 3 burms that all have different personalaties. my 11foot male is super mellow, but can be really aggressive at feeding time. My 11foot female is much the same, but my 13foot female is not a people person. She is crabby most of the time and doesn't like to be handled. A 100 plus pound snake definately has the size and strength to take you out of this world! If you keep this in mind, They can be awsome pets. Common snake sense: Don't use rodents for deoderant! Safety in numbers with the bigguns, even the mellow ones [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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RoyalRazer · #9 (**permalink**) 05-14-2002, 06:08 PM

Well my snake expeirence isn't much but here goes:I own a leo, a baby royal and I have handled boas before. I looked after a tree frog for a friend once and i've read loads about snakes and other reptiles. I am thinking about getting some Yemen chamleons in a few years time but my royal is my priority at the mo!

Do burms have good tempermants though? Like do they get tame fast and are they good eaters?

THANX
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#10 (**permalink**) 05-14-2002, 06:32 PM

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Do burms have good tempermants though? Like do they get tame fast and are they good eaters?</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

On average, they are pretty docile, as far as big snakes go.

Are they good eaters? Dude, they'll eat you out of house and home if you let them!

Most of the time, accidents resulting in death to the owner occur 2 ways. Dumb asses carry 10' burms around their necks, they lose their balance, jiggle funny, the snake thinks it's gonna fall, tightens up around your neck and the lights get dim and go out forever. The other popular way to be killed by a burm are Stupid Feeding Errors. If you make one of these with a 6' ratsnake, you might get a good bite. If you make one of these with a 12' burm, you'll probably end up dead. Like all snakes, they do smell, heat and motion, mostly in that order. If they smell food, sense your heat and motion, you compute as very possibly edible to them.

Not to sound high and mighty, but if a baby ball is your only experience, I'd hold off on that burm for quite a while. Don't become a statistic [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]
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morti · #11 (**permalink**) 05-14-2002, 06:36 PM

Some do and some don't royal. To me the disadvantages of burms FAR outweigh the pleasure of the snake itself. I am one of those guys Rav was talking about. I have something like 30 Boas in my house at the moment. I fed them all last night and got them all to eat, so I feel like I am a pretty experienced herper... but I am not ready for a Burm. I am not ready financially to feed large rabbits and pigs to this animal. I am not ready to have an animal that it will take 3 or more adult people to handle. I am not ready for an animal with cage requirements the size of my current apartment. Perhaps in a lot of years when i have a house of my own with all the room I need to make a secure reptile room without any chance of any trouble from any source, then maybe.

-Morti.
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Ravnos · #12 (**permalink**) 05-14-2002, 06:51 PM

I keep 11 burms. Every one of them has a different personality and activity level. They range from a 5' baby to a 15' girl. None of them are in what I would consider the 'monster' size range, but they are still more than impressive. And with each of them behaving just slightly different, I have to be constantly aware. I could very easily, one day, accidentally mistake one burm for another and approach her wrong and end up a statistic myself. Its very hard to just make a generalization like 'Sure they make good pets' because every animal has its own unique traits and personality.

You might want to find a local rescue or someone locally who keeps large constrictors and ask if you can help out with them for a while. Get a feel for the level of care, and sheer task of doing something as simple as moving them out of the cage for cleaning. =)

Rav

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RoyalRazer · #13 (**permalink**) 05-17-2002, 05:48 PM

I said I was just curious and I know curiousty (spelling?) killed the cat! [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img] Okay, maybe burms are a bit to far feteched, but I am still interested in two other types.

What are carpet pythons or boas like (common boas). I just wanted to say im a big kid for my age so snake s from 6 to 10 foot should be no probs, as long as they eat good! [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img]
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