Striped Spider

[John_White]

Originally Posted by SteveJor

Defective, in this case, is based upon interpretation.

Not at all. Any animal with neurological disorders is defective.

Why produce albino boas? They have a tendency to have one eyed offspring.
Why produce green burms? They have a tendency to live short lives.

Exactly! Why?

Why produce any animal? There are irresponsible keepers out there.

It has been my experience that most reptile keepers are GREAT people! However, if 100% of the keepers were irresponsible, in the same manner that 100% of spider balls have neurological disorders, it would be a disservice to the animals knowing that they were all going to irresponsible keepers.

I can answer your question as to why I would want to produce an animal with one photo.

I could not agree more. There is nothing more awe inspiring than a perfectly normal, neurological disorder free, snake emerging from an egg.

[SteveJor]

Originally Posted by John_White

I could not agree more. There is nothing more awe inspiring than a perfectly normal, neurological disorder free, snake emerging from an egg.

Hmmm.....You cannot tell from that photo that the snake poking it's head out is "perfectly normal" or has issues. .....Seems like a bit of an assumption (just like spiders have a poor quality of life).

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[John_White]

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I only hope that you are not purposely producing defective animals.

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[SteveJor]

Originally Posted by John_White

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I only hope that you are not purposely producing defective animals.

Perfectly healthy. That head actually belongs to this girl.

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[SteveJor]

Good appetite and there appears to be no wobble when feeding.

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[mongoose5971]

To me the drive behind breeding any animal unless conservation based is to play God, to "see what you can make." I don't understand it myself. I wouldn't want to put the health of any of my pets at risk just to see what kind of babies they would make. I wouldn't want to bring more lives into the world when there are already plenty. I do agree that captive breeding is great for wild populations and there are plenty of great pet owners out there, but I wouldn't say all or even most are. I agree there are a lot of pretty morphs out there but I don't think they are worth the trial and error of deformed or neglected babies. I think breeding animals will just be one of those age-old debates. I will try not to say too much, but just throwing my opinion out there. And to the OP, yes it is a cute snake.

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	Morph A morph is a color or pattern variation that is proven to be genetic. Common morphs include albino, anerythristic, gentically striped, Hypomelanistic, and many others. Morphs also include combinations of simple traits such as "Sunglow" which is Albino and Hypomelanistic. These traits may be recessive traits, co-dominant traits, dominant traits, or created through selective breeding (ie Pastel).

[Oroborous]

Originally Posted by John_White

Round and round is good. It gives much needed exposure and information to newbies as to why spider balls are produced. As well as giving insight into the ethics of breeders who choose to produce animals with known neurological disorders.
Good breeders put the animals first. It is impossible to be a good ethical breeder and then purposely produce defective animals.

So, basically you are saying it is impossible for me to be an ethical breeder...I have to disagree. All my animals are very well taken care of, healthy, and have a quality of life that is better than a lot of snakes that are bred in captivity I think(for one they aren't kept in tiny drawers in a rack). My spider is growing quickly and is very alert and has an amazing feeding response. She moves about like any snake and does not in any way appear to be hampered by her slight wobble. So her quality of life appears good to me(at least the same as my other snakes). Some day I will breed her. And since she has a good quality of life I don't think that's unethical.

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