Blood Balls

[Ghroller]

Not that I would ever try and make any hybrids, i find the motives and morals behind it questionable at best. But to each is own i guess. But i recently saw some pics of a blood ball cross and was wondering. Which sex with which species would work best in the case? I'm guessing a Male Blood with a Female BP would give you the best chances? I'm guessing this because of size differences?

	Ball Python The Ball Python (Python regius), also known as the Royal Python, is a ground dwelling snake native to the savannahs and rain forests in western Africa, predominatly the countries of Ghana, Togo, and Benin.

[pandora1985]

Do you really consider the creation of a hybrid to be immoral? I don't know much about the subject, but if there aren't any defects in the offspring then I wouldn't think it would be such a big deal. Just another way to increase genetic diversity which is always a good thing.

I'm also wondering if the hybrid offspring are sterile....

[SoberGuy]

Originally Posted by pandora1985

Do you really consider the creation of a hybrid to be immoral? I don't know much about the subject, but if there aren't any defects in the offspring then I wouldn't think it would be such a big deal. Just another way to increase genetic diversity which is always a good thing.

I'm also wondering if the hybrid offspring are sterile....

I think the main objective is that the easiest way to produce a hybrid is to inbreed the heck out of it, which in turn limits the size of the gene pool.

[Ghroller]

I mean immoral because i'd assume the whole idea behind it is $$$, and theres no real reason to cross snakes that would naturally have nothing to do with eachother. Thats just me, everyones intitled to there own opinions.

[pandora1985]

Well the whole idea behind breeding any snakes is generally money. Of course for some it is a hobby and they enjoy it. So what's the difference if hybrids are created or not. IMO as long as care is taken to ensure healthy and well taken care of animals (ie no inbreeding) I don't see anything wrong with the practice.

	In My Opinon IMO = In My Opinion and IMHO = In My Honest Opinion

[loganallred]

tehre is nthgin wrong with breeding for hybrids.

the fact that bloods, angolans and balls can be bred to make a hybrid, shows that they come from the same ancestral origins. animals are here for our enjoyment, if you dont believe that, then dont own pets. as long as the animals are not suffering, and are healthy, there is nothign wrong with making money off them, or makign living peices of genetic art.

[pandora1985]

Originally Posted by loganallred

tehre is nthgin wrong with breeding for hybrids.

the fact that bloods, angolans and balls can be bred to make a hybrid, shows that they come from the same ancestral origins. animals are here for our enjoyment, if you dont believe that, then dont own pets. as long as the animals are not suffering, and are healthy, there is nothign wrong with making money off them, or makign living peices of genetic art.

well put.

if anything the offspring would lead to healthier animals---> hybrid vigor

[Ghroller]

Just my opinion, nothing wrong with yours

[JuliusSqueezer]

Hybrids and inbreeding don't mix. Think about it. How would a male blood python and a female ball python be related? I really don't think it's a worrysome factor. I don't have a problem with hybrids as long as they are properly represented and not released into the wild. It makes no ecological difference if someone has oddball looking goofy colored snakes as pets. If the two species are especially rare and/or endangered, it would be nice to concentrate on propegating clean blood lines though. But as far as I know, there is no shortage of bloods or balls.

[Shuba]

Originally Posted by JuliusSqueezer

I don't have a problem with hybrids as long as they are properly represented and not released into the wild.

I was going to comment on this a bit earlier but thought it was irrelevant to the post. There are some people who actualy want to release the morph traits into the wild (ie: albinoism) which would really do the opposite of what mother nature has been trying to keep for so many years, and thats camouflage. The disadvantage would certainley go to the snake, and advantage would go to any predator animal in the area. How easy would it be to spot an albino snake in a forest/jungle setting?..

	Morph A morph is a color or pattern variation that is proven to be genetic. Common morphs include albino, anerythristic, gentically striped, Hypomelanistic, and many others. Morphs also include combinations of simple traits such as "Sunglow" which is Albino and Hypomelanistic. These traits may be recessive traits, co-dominant traits, dominant traits, or created through selective breeding (ie Pastel).

[JuliusSqueezer]

Lay down the crack pipe Shuba. Noone is trying to release albino anythings anywhere but into the pet trade where the big bucks are. But anyway...morph and hybrid = 2 different things.

[Shuba]

Let me bow down to you before I correct my self. All mighty Julius Squeezer, the know it all of everything that ever existed, im sure you know of every single python/boa that has ever escaped or been released willingly must have not have had the albino feature or carried the trait. Maybe I made a mistake (god forbid we know julius makes no mistakes) by saying somebody wants to willingly release the animal, but it doesn't mean it ever happend or will happen. I wasn't correcting anybody, I was just making a statement about what you said of hybrids being released in the wild.

BTW Don't bet your life on me ever smoking crack. I really think being a top "administrator" you should be more assertive. I'll bet I am in 10x better health & shape then you though, so you can believe that im the crack smoking dope sick kaka head all you want, but when it comes down to reality your probably far behind alot of these people who you ever tried insulting with your humor. IMO you need to (censored), pick up something that makes you happier then trying to run people down with your stupid remarks. Quit hiding behind your Staff status, that makes you no greater then anyone on this website, except for the fact you can probably open your mouth without getting slapped on the wrist.

	In My Opinon IMO = In My Opinion and IMHO = In My Honest Opinion