I think my baby ball is sick....pictures and video

[B|i5S]

Hi it's me Bliss.....members me?

Anyways, I got a baby ball python and she's been doing good for several months.
THen I moved far away took 5 days of driving. she was with me the whole way.
5 days after we settled in I fed her a frozen thawed hopper which she readily accepted.

now it's a week and a half later and I go to feed her again. F.T.Hopper and she refuses. This isn't the first time she's refused food even when I make it dance for her.

SO I figure I'll try again tomorrow.

My B.F. takes her out of her tank and she behaves really oddly. Her heads sways side to side and then she flips over and lays on her back her head straight up but still upside down. Her neck area looks disturbingly concave. Her belly area is very large and 'full' looking even though it's been about 11 or 12 days since she last ate.

She's not flicking her tongue out.
She's not moving a lot except when we move her. When I put her on her back she just lays there. Or does the weird head thing of swaying side to side.

I'm worried.

I had my B.F. take some photos of her and a small video of when I decided to give her a little warm bath and she did the weird head wave thing and I flipped her upside down and she lays there.

Does she have IBD? I'm so scared for her.....

Please help.

thanks.

Bliss

PICS:

Here you can see the unusual way in which she is holding her head:





Here you can see the scary concaveness of her neck to the rest of her body:








VIDEO:

http://ca.geocities.com/torisutan/goldie.mov



she isn't long for this earth is she?
it's ok you can tell me, I can take it.

	Inclusion Body Disease IBD

[B|i5S]

btw thats not her enclosure. it's her killing box...as I call it.
aka feeding box

[faze]

hey hun i've never first seen IBD first hand but that does seem to fit the descriptions i've always heard of it ....i dont ever remember hearing anything about the bottom side of the snake in question concaving though... make sure you get him into quarentene and im sure someone who has had the misfortune of dealing with this

...on another note...how the #$%^&#$%^&#$%^&#$%^& ya been?

	Inclusion Body Disease IBD

[B|i5S]

I've been well UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN right now I amtrying to be up.
yunno...LIFE. *le sigh*

Luckily, for quarintine purposes, she's my only snake. My boa constrictor was stolen from me.
I miss her so much.
sigh

it's scary isn't it. I'm so sad for Goldie. I hope she makes it.

[muzixman]

I suspect IBD or Bacterial meningitis but then again I'm no vet. Either way that does not look good, maybe someone with more knowledge will come along sortly. Good luck

	Inclusion Body Disease IBD

[B|i5S]

**UPDATE**

Goldie has died.

sigh

Sometime today.

I miss her.


Now once again. I am snakeless.

[muzixman]

Sorry to here that.

[tracylou]

Oh, I'm so sorry.

[Kent K25]

Sorry to hear about your loss, you could look to adopt another, that's always a cheap option.

[JuliusSqueezer]

IBD is certainly suspect but there are other things that can cause the neurological disorder she exhibited. Chemical exposure, overheating...in fact overheating is a very likely probably. What were her cage temps? What were the temps when she was traveling? If you can't rule out IBD though, you may need to destroy the cage just in case and get a new one before bringing home another snake.

Kill box? Were you feeding her live?

	Inclusion Body Disease IBD

[ChrisBallPython]

oh, i'm sorry to hear that. it's so sad to hear your baby got sick to died.