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#1 (**permalink**) 04-14-2002, 04:43 AM

Guess what? IM GETTING A RED TAIL! I went to the pet shop (about a 1 and 1/2 hour drive there and back! Kentucky sucks!) today and guess what? The guys actually knew what he was talking about! This guy knew his stuff! he was still from kentucky.... but he knew his stuff. They had a pair of BCC there that were just the coloration I was looking for. awesome! I held them and they looked healthy. wonderful dispotion (it was warm in the store so they just werent cold) . Only one concern. The male had wrinkled skin. No spin. but wrinkled. The guy said it was because he just shed. Could this be true?
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Boaguy · #2 (**permalink**) 04-14-2002, 04:47 AM

yes they get wrinkled skin b4 they shed..
hmm BCC?
umm.. they get even bigger then BCI ... if i were u i would keep a snake u can keep threw its life.
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#3 (**permalink**) 04-14-2002, 04:57 AM

He SAID it was real.... But i duuno.... He also said it was columbian and im not sure if that contridicts.
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Boa_Master · #4 (**permalink**) 04-14-2002, 05:06 AM

hey William you still got them corn snakes??? I dont live to far from KY so if you still have them and wanna get rid of them let me know. What part of KY where you from? I hope you didnt go to any of the pet stores in Paducah. If you did you got screwed over. The pet store in Lone Oak needs to be shut he lets his animals starve and go hungry. He had a baby corn that eneded up being a dead corn. It was so dehydrated it wasnt even funny. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_cry.gif[/img]
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Boaguy · #5 (**permalink**) 04-14-2002, 05:12 AM

columbian is BCI...
but even that is way over yout head.
I would Keep the cornsnakes and make sure u keep them in DIFFRENT containers
thats why one isnt eating a RTB is way over your head.. if u cant deal with a 8+ foot snake
then DONT get one! you know you are going to be getting rid of it when it gets big!
i would look for a HOGG ISLE BOA!! they look just like a pastel boa!!
they only grow 5-6 foot and u can handle that (HOPEFULLY)
Please dont get something you know you are going to be getting rid of it.
But if u know u will be commited to it .. then Great [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
a big boa isnt very scary... u will grow to like it.. they are very good snakes
even a 8+ foot one if u raise it right.. then u will have a awesome pet snake.
REMEMBER you will only get out of a snake what you put in
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Alicewave · #6 (**permalink**) 04-14-2002, 05:31 AM

Still planning to dump it after four years? You're getting a boa and you don't know if it constricts? or did you mean contradicts?

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Boaguy · #7 (**permalink**) 04-14-2002, 05:32 AM

oh ya may i ask what kind of petstore this is??
if it is a chain store like petco/petsmart dont buy there!
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#8 (**permalink**) 04-14-2002, 11:17 AM

William..You stated in your other post thread that you wouldn't be able to keep a large snake such as a bcc would get to be for it's lifetime/any longer than like 3-4 years. WHY would you be looking to get one then at this point?
I thought you understood the WHY's NOT to do such a thing from what others have told you also. hmmm
AND on that wrinkle from shedding.. My boas are not wrinkly after having shed out [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]
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Shadrach · #9 (**permalink**) 04-14-2002, 03:45 PM

Yeah I'm with Lori here go with something smaller if you aren't going to be able to keep it after it starts putting on size! Personally I myself don't under stand putting in alot of money on a snake and after 4 year's get rid of it? I'd end up going with a ball or Children's python something I could keep!
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brandbrit · #10 (**permalink**) 04-15-2002, 06:34 AM

Wrinkle after a shed [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img] My snakes are usually smooth after a shed....Anyway, do the animal a favor and do not purchase it....NOTunless you are willing and committed to take care of it. Snakes and other animals are not objects that you can trade in when the lease is up or you're tired. Do you even have a clue on how many reptiles or any pet for that matter (dog, cat, parrot,etc) get dumped for idiotic reasons ? And most of these animals get euthanized because they can't find homes. My RTB is a good example. She was found at an estuary by USFW just before a cold snap hit the area. How she got there? Most likely she was dumped because she got "too big" [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_evil.gif[/img] William, again snakes or any type animal are NOT and SHOULD NOT be treated as "the new flavor of the month"
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Dr.Oviparous · #11 (**permalink**) 04-15-2002, 11:58 AM

bad choice, william [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_evil.gif[/img] . did you not listen to anything we all tried to teach you in the other thread? it felt like we were getting somewhere. why did you come here, ask for advice, and totally disregard it? and why again did you tell us your getting a BCC? think we're happy? well I can't speak for everyone, but I think I speak for most when I say you're making a very irresponsible desision. great parenting [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img] . -a very frustrated Juggalo
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Boaguy · #12 (**permalink**) 04-18-2002, 04:31 PM

maybe b4 u go threw with this.. u should read this.. not realy snake related but u will get the point.

____________________________________________________________________________How Could You?

When I was a puppy, I entertained you with my antics and made you laugh. You called me your child, and despite a number of chewed shoes and a couple of murdered throw pillows, I became your best friend.

Whenever I was "bad," you'd shake your finger at me and ask "How could you?" -- but then you'd relent and roll me over for a belly rub.

My housebreaking took a little longer than expected, because you were terribly busy, but we worked on that together. I remember those nights of nuzzling you in bed and listening to your confidences and secret dreams, and I believed that life could not be any more perfect.

We went for long walks and runs in the park, car rides, stops for ice cream (I only got the cone because "ice cream is bad for dogs" you said), and I took long naps in the sun waiting for you to come home at the end of the day.

Gradually, you began spending more time at work and on your career, and more time searching for a human mate. I waited for you patiently, comforted you through heartbreaks and disappointments, never chided you about bad decisions, and romped with glee at your homecomings, and when you fell in love.

She, now your wife, is not a "dog person" -- still I welcomed her into our home, tried to show her affection, and obeyed her. I was happy because you were happy.

Then the human babies came along and I shared your excitement. I was fascinated by their pinkness, how they smelled, and I wanted to mother them, too. Only she and you worried that I might hurt them, and I spent most of my time banished to another room, or to a dog crate. Oh, how I wanted to love them, but I became a prisoner of love."

As they began to grow, I became their friend. They clung to my fur and pulled themselves up on wobbly legs, poked fingers in my eyes, investigated my ears, and gave me kisses on my nose. I loved everything about them and their touch -- because your touch was now so infrequent -- and I would've defended them with my life if need be. I would sneak into their beds and listen to their worries and secret dreams, and together we waited for the sound of your car in the driveway.

There had been a time, when others asked you if you had a dog, that you produced a photo of me from your wallet and told them stories about me. These past few years, you just answered "yes" and changed the subject. I had gone from being "your dog" to "just a dog," and you resented every expenditure on my behalf.

Now, you have a new career opportunity in another city, and you and they will be moving to an apartment that does not allow pets. You've made the right decision for your "family," but there was a time when I was your only family.

I was excited about the car ride until we arrived at the animal shelter. It smelled of dogs and cats, of fear, of hopelessness. You filled out the paperwork and said "I know you will find a good home for her." They shrugged and gave you a pained look. They understand the realities facing a middle-aged dog, even one with "papers."

You had to pry your son's fingers loose from my collar as he screamed, "No, Daddy! Please don't let them take my dog!" And I worried for him, and what lessons you had just taught him about friendship and loyalty, about love and responsibility, and about respect for all life.

You gave me a good-bye pat on the head, avoided my eyes, and politely refused to take my collar and leash with you. You had a deadline to meet and now I have one, too. After you left, the two nice ladies said you probably knew about your upcoming move months ago and made no attempt to find me another good home. They shook their heads and asked "How could you?"

They are as attentive to us here in the shelter as their busy schedules allow. They feed us, of course, but I lost my appetite days ago.

At first, whenever anyone passed my pen, I rushed to the front, hoping it was you that you had changed your mind -- that this was all a bad dream... or I hoped it would at least be someone who cared, anyone who might save me.

When I realized I could not compete with the frolicking for attention of happy puppies, oblivious to their own fate, I retreated to a far corner and waited. I heard her footsteps as she came for me at the end of the day, and I padded along the aisle after her to a separate room. A blissfully quiet room.

She placed me on the table and rubbed my ears, and told me not to worry. My heart pounded in anticipation of what was to come, but there was also a sense of relief. The prisoner of love had run out of days.

As is my nature, I was more concerned about her. The burden which she bears weighs heavily on her, and I know that, the same way I knew your every mood.

She gently placed a tourniquet around my foreleg as a tear ran down her cheek. I licked her hand in the same way I used to comfort you so many years ago.

She expertly slid the hypodermic needle into my vein. As I felt the sting and the cool liquid coursing through my body, I lay down sleepily, looked into her kind eyes and murmured "How could you?"

Perhaps because she understood my dogspeak, she said "I'm so sorry." She hugged me, and hurriedly explained it was her job to make sure I went to a better place, where I wouldn't be ignored or abused or abandoned, or have to fend for myself --a place of love and light so very different from this earthly place.

And with my last bit of energy, I tried to convey to her with a thump of my tail that my "How could you?" was not directed at her. It was directed at you, My Beloved Master, I was thinking of you. I will think of you and wait for you forever. May everyone in your life continue to show you so much loyalty.

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alli_cat78 · #13 (**permalink**) 04-18-2002, 05:46 PM

boaguy, that story was so sad [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_cry.gif[/img] [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_cry.gif[/img] Makes me want to go to the pound and adopt them all!!

William, i hope you get the point. A pet is a big responsiblity, if you do decide to get a snake please don't think of it as a temporary thing. you should plan to keep it for its entire life or not at all, like everyone else said

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