Dog Rips Child From Mother's Arms

[RioBravoReptiles]

It only took a second to find a story on a Rottweiler killing a child. In this case at least no one is erroneously mistaking the killer dog for a Pit Bull.
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Dog Rips Child From Mother Arms (Rottweiller Kills Girl)
KABC TV 7, Los Angeles ^ | August 2, 2004
Dog Rips Child From Mother Arms
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GLENDALE — A Rottweiller ripped a toddler out of her mother's arms in Glendale, dragged the child up a driveway and mauled her to death, police said today.
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The dog, which belongs to the victim's grandparents, pulled the child from her mother's arms about 7 last night in the 2300 block of Via Saldivar, said Sherri Servillo, a Glendale Police Department spokeswoman.
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The infant was taken to a hospital, where she was pronounced dead, Servillo said.
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The woman was housesitting for the child's grandparents, Servillo said, adding authorities received a "hysterical 911 call" after the attack.
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The dog is being held by Pasadena Animal Control, she said.
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The woman holding the child was also holding a hose and watering a lawn when the 150-pound Rottweiler attacked, said Glendale police Sgt. Tom Lorenz, calling it a "horrific and tragic incident" that has shocked crime scene investigators.
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He said the dog dragged the infant several feet down the driveway before mauling her. The mother suffered no major injuries.
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After being notified of the attack, Glendale police officers went to the place where the victim's father works in Pasadena and drove him to the hospital where his child was pronounced dead, police said.
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[Ursa Minor]

Ugh! That's horrible.

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[Ranger]

And I reiterate:

Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks
in the United States between 1979 and 1998
Jeffrey J. Sacks, MD, MPH; Leslie Sinclair, DVM; Julie Gilchrist, MD; Gail C. Golab, PhD, DVM; Randall Lockwood,PhD

Objective--To summarize breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks during a 20-year period and to assess policy implications.

Animals--Dogs for which breed was reported involved in attacks on humans between 1979 and 1998 that resulted in human dog bite-related fatalities (DBRF).

Procedure--Data for human DBRF identified previously for the period of 1979 through 1996 were combined with human DBRF newly identified for 1997
and 1998. Human DBRF were identified by searching news accounts and by use of The Humane Society of the United States' registry databank.

Results--During 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998 ). At least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in 238
human DBRF during the past 20 years. Pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers were involved in more than half of these deaths. Of 227 reports with relevant data, 55
(24%) human deaths involved unrestrained dogs off their owners' property, 133 (58%) involved unrestrained dogs on their owners' property, 38 (17%) involved
restrained dogs on their owners' property, and 1 (< 1%) involved a restrained dog off its owner's property.

Conclusions--Although fatal attacks on humans appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and
cause fatalities at higher rates. Because of difficulties inherent in determining a dog's breed with certainty, enforcement of breed-specific ordinances raises con-
sititutional and practical issues. Fatal attacks represent a small proportion of dog bite injuries to humans and, therefore, should not be the primary factor driving
public policy concerning dangerous dogs. Many practical alternatives to breed-specific ordinances exist and hold promise for prevention of dog bites.
( J Am Vet Med Assoc 2000;217:836#$%^&840)

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[KaylinCoo]

::sigh::

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[gruvinbass]

Human DBRF were identified by searching news accounts and by use of The Humane Society of the United States' registry databank.

that doesn't seem like a very good way to get any kind of accurate statistics

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[mpgt]

I had 2 rottweilers for over 10 years. They were the most gentle dog we ever had around children. I bet they were just pretending to be good dogs, while planning to kill us all in our sleep. Good thing they died (of old age) before they got around to it.

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[BonafideHerps]

Joe,
I have a 2 year old 80-85LB American Rottweiler. The most gentle and well trained dog ever. I guess its on how well the dog was brought up.

All in all this is a said story. I feel for the parents.


Rich

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[John_White]

I like all dogs, but can't ignore the evidence/statistics:
http://dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%...%20Clifton.pdf

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[mpgt]

Originally Posted by BonafideHerps

Joe,
I have a 2 year old 80-85LB American Rottweiler. The most gentle and well trained dog ever. I guess its on how well the dog was brought up.
All in all this is a said story. I feel for the parents.
Rich

Well for heaven's sake, get rid of it quick. Some people think they're just naturally killers. It might go house to house, killing everyone on the block. I saw that in a movie once...could happen.

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[gruvinbass]

from the clifton report you linked

Compiled by the editor of ANIMAL PEOPLE from press accounts
since 1982

I don't think you're going to get any kind of accuracy from press accounts. Even the CDC admits that they don't track dog bite injuries and deaths by breed because it's "of no discernable value".

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[razeraze]

I think we have to look at the areas where attacks happen as well. Pitbulls and rottweilers are mainstream in high crime locations. It is more the owners than ever the breed.
loving pit bulls? - Topic Powered by eve community
Here is another fun read:
Fatalities Report 2000
I guess we should ban cows and bulls

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[Red-Tailed_mustang]

I say Ban them Ban Pit Bulls and Rotts and any other dog that attacks humans ban them All!!!! I really like your avatar Ranger

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[razeraze]

Originally Posted by Red-Tailed_mustang

I say Ban them Ban Pit Bulls and Rotts and any other dog that attacks humans ban them All!!!! I really like your avatar Ranger

Great Next on the chopping block will be retics.

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[John_White]

Originally Posted by gruvinbass

I don't think you're going to get any kind of accuracy from press accounts.

Did a quick Google search looking for information that would discredit the Animal People's data but did not find any. Admittedly, I'm not familiar with Animal People, but based on their website they appear to be pro-animal.

"ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide. With thousands of items on hand, the ANIMAL PEOPLE website is one of the largest repository of articles on animal issues on the Internet, and all topics that affect animals are covered. Founded in 1992, ANIMAL PEOPLE has no alignment or affiliation with any other entity."

Without a doubt there are many GREAT pit bulls and rottweiller out there and unfortunately, there are some bad ones. I think the ratio of good pit bulls and rots vs. bad ones, may be lower than that of some other breeds. Also, given the large size and strength of pits and rotts even "rough play" can result in a severe wound to a human.

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[gruvinbass]

I understand that Animal People is a pro-animal organization...my point is that they compiled the statistics from press reports. We all know how the press would never never sensationalize any report about an animal biting a human, or how they never get the facts wrong when it comes to that sort of thing.

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[Red-Tailed_mustang]

Originally Posted by razeraze

Great Next on the chopping block will be retics.

and then cars and then alcohol and then guns. But unfortunately people will still be killed Humans kill more humans than any other animal
NationMaster - Statistics > Murders (Latest available) by country
Fatal dog attacks United States
Deaths resulting from animal attacks in the United States

[Ranger]

Every time someone cites the sweet pit or Rott. they used to have (or have) it is called "anecdotal evidence," and in no way changes the objective statistical evidence. It's like saying, "I've been free-handling a monocle cobra for 10 years without being bitten, so monocle cobras are safe to handle."

The fact that you know a pit or Rott. that hasn't ever hurt anyone doesn't mean they aren't statistically responsible for a majority of serious injuries and deaths. Apply reason and logic more often than emotion. You'll go far.

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[RioBravoReptiles]

This is pertinent:
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In recent years, the dogs responsible for the bulk of the homicides are pit bulls and Rottweilers:
"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)
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This website has some of the best fact-based information on the subject of dog bites and dog homicides I've seen and the author is decidedly pro-dog ownership (including APBTs and Rotts).
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http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/stat....html#homicide

[mpgt]

Originally Posted by Ranger

Apply reason and logic more often than emotion. You'll go far.

Depends on where you apply it. Wherever the "mob rule" mentality prevails, only one opinion is allowed.

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[Jem_Scout]

Gus- Why are u dredging up old articles from 2004?

Never mind, apparently I'm coming into a discussion from another thread...sorry.

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