Dog Rips Child From Mother's Arms

[RevMojo]

Ok, here's what I see...

Some keep going on about the statistics being bad or invalid because they rely on press reports: What else is there to rely on? Yes, we have to accept that there may be some flaws in the data. For example...one report cited one period of time for pit attacks, then another for rott attacks. It's statiticians you can't trust, not statistics. Both sides will use the stats that best meet their agenda.

Licensing all dog owners: Yeah, right...that lady with the box of free puppies outside the grocery store is going to check to make sure takers have licenses. Or worse yet...the laws become so oppressive that she has to, and can't find enough licensees. What happens to the dogs then?

Unfortunately, this becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. The bad press for bites generates more interest from those who want them for the wrong reasons.

Perhaps an effective smear campaign against poodles would take some of the heat off.

[Red-Tailed_mustang]

How about harsher punishment for the owners Including dog fighting and it doesn't matter who you are or how much money you have( oh wait this is America I forgot the Rich can get away with murder) the whole Micheal Vick thing is a joke 12-18 months instead of up to 12 years. An most importantly Education people need to know the history of the breed and how to take care of them. But some people can't take care of their kids properly so there goes that right out of the window.

[razeraze]

Just a little insight on dog behavior. Dogs will attack humans just as quickly as they will other dogs especially if the human is small and easily over powered. No dog wants to lose a fight and a full grown adult male is a formidable opponent.

My great uncle had a wolf that would attack anyone who did not smell like grease and dirt. Believe it or not dogs usually do not attack their owners or people they familiarize with so dog fighters would fit that bill, but if their dog got out and saw a child the story would be different. Dogs like cats, sometimes kill just to kill, not to eat and small prey (children) are victim to one dog, large prey usually falls victim to 2 or more dogs because dogs still act and hunt like wolves.

[mpgt]

Yes dogs and cats have very strong natural instincts. I consider those instincts to be predictors of what the animal will do without influence from an outside source. Dogs, even wolves have to suppress powerful urges when in the control or presence of a pack leader. Notice I didn't say "the" pack leader. They have a keen sense of hierarchy. With training, they know their place in the pecking order. Without it, they resort to natural instinct, and sometimes step up to "pack leader" position. Every friend, family member and casual acquaintance should be regarded as having a higher status than the dog. When we excuse aggression, saying "he's just being protective" or "all poodles growl like that", we are the problem! Most dogs in America are raised with almost no rules or boundaries. That's the real problem.

[badkittyamy]

Cesar Millan is the Crocodile Hunter of the dog world some people flat out HATE them while others love them

[gruvinbass]

Some keep going on about the statistics being bad or invalid because they rely on press reports: What else is there to rely on? Yes, we have to accept that there may be some flaws in the data.

There's nothing else to rely on...but how can you honestly expect any reasonably accurate conclusion, based on flawed statistics?

[Ursa Minor]

Originally Posted by gruvinbass

from the clifton report you linked
I don't think you're going to get any kind of accuracy from press accounts. Even the CDC admits that they don't track dog bite injuries and deaths by breed because it's "of no discernable value".

Law enforcement agencies and health agencies in every state keep logs of animal bites/attacks. As long as their reported. Police and hospital staff are required to report animal bites, but if Joe Shmoe doesn't call 911 or go in to the ER no one knows. In South Carolina the agency is DHEC, which is also where animals are sent for rabies testing after "attacks".
And I just wanted to share pics of my AMSTAFF and my Aunts Rottie...

[Ursa Minor]

Originally Posted by razeraze

Just a little insight on dog behavior. Dogs will attack humans just as quickly as they will other dogs especially if the human is small and easily over powered. No dog wants to lose a fight and a full grown adult male is a formidable opponent.
My great uncle had a wolf that would attack anyone who did not smell like grease and dirt. Believe it or not dogs usually do not attack their owners or people they familiarize with so dog fighters would fit that bill, but if their dog got out and saw a child the story would be different. Dogs like cats, sometimes kill just to kill, not to eat and small prey (children) are victim to one dog, large prey usually falls victim to 2 or more dogs because dogs still act and hunt like wolves.

I know that the canine is a descendant of the wolf, but that's been sooo many years ago that I don't think it's fair to compare the two anymore.
Yes, animals are just as unpredictable as humans when it comes to violence. But I still believe it's all in how you raise and treat your animal.

I'm all for the aerial spraying of Xanax! It works for dogs and humans.