Redtailboa.net  

Welcome to the Redtailboa.net forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, free photo gallery (10 meg upload limit), free classifieds, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   Redtailboa.net > General > Just Talk
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Advertisement
ballboutique  
 

» Quick Moderation
» Recent Threads
Go to first new post What a HO!
Today 09:41 PM
Last post by SNAKEWISPERER
Today 10:04 PM
2 Replies, 13 Views
Go to first new post guys with snakes...
10-02-2008 06:45 PM
Last post by waltah!
Today 09:46 PM
244 Replies, 4,744 Views
Go to first new post Help
Today 09:45 PM
Last post by freepartyman
Today 09:45 PM
0 Replies, 9 Views
Go to first new post BRB out again
10-07-2008 10:37 PM
Last post by toastedrobot
Today 09:37 PM
10 Replies, 189 Views
Go to first new post pics of other hobbies...
10-05-2008 04:01 PM
Last post by SNAKEWISPERER
Today 09:35 PM
29 Replies, 476 Views
Go to first new post Couple Hot Pumpkins
Yesterday 03:48 PM
Last post by Icicle
Today 09:35 PM
11 Replies, 126 Views
Go to first new post Strange clouds
Yesterday 07:24 PM
Last post by Icicle
Today 09:30 PM
21 Replies, 186 Views
» Ads

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2002, 01:31 AM
ChrisRezendes ChrisRezendes is offline
Regular RTB User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 319
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 1,604.81
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,604.81
Donate
Rep Power: 23
ChrisRezendes is on a distinguished road
81552

Snakes and the Ice Ages

Sometimes physical and environmental barriers team up to influence the distribution of snakes. In his book "The Snakes of Europe", British herpetologist J.W. Steward offers a concise explanation that Europe's paucity of snake species- less than three dozen, compared to more than 100 in the United States and 300 in Mexico- is largely a result of Pleistocene glaciation. He also explains how glaciation may have caused many species of European snakes- vipers, for instance- to split up into several subspecies.
At it's maximum, the ice extended as far south as northern Germany, European Russia, and England. South of the glacial margin tundra, cold grasslands and taiga, too chilly for snakes, stretched across Central Europe. Glaciers also expanded on the Alps and Pyrenees, sealing off southern Italy and Spain. Only in these two areas along with the Balkans did the climate remain moderate enough, because of Mediterranean's influence, to support deciduous forest- and snakes.
Glaciation decimated Europe's reptile species. Some species of snakes, although not many, found refuge in the Mediterranean enclaves. Cut off from each other in these refuges, members of the same species well may have differentiated into subspecies. After the last glaciation, some, although by no means all, of the refugees left their enclaves and spread out across Europe. The climate was warmer then than it is today so some species, such as the Aesculapian snake, penetrated far into the north. As temperatures dropped to a more typical level, this species retreated to Central and Southern Europe, where it lives today. Meanwhile, species more tolerant of cold, such as the adder, expanded their ranged due to limited competition.

Taken from the book "The Snake Almanac" by Edward R. Ricciuti

_________________
You know she's a winner.
She couldn't be thinner.
Now she goes to the bathroom
to vomit up dinner.
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2002, 01:32 AM
ChrisRezendes ChrisRezendes is offline
Regular RTB User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 319
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 1,604.81
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,604.81
Donate
Rep Power: 23
ChrisRezendes is on a distinguished road
81553

Glaciation, Land Bridges, and their relation with the spread of snakes

WHY THERE ARE NO SNAKES IN IRELAND
Saint Patrick did not have a difficult job chasing snakes from Ireland. There were not any there. Ireland and Britain were almost completely glaciated. The low sea level allowed land bridges to connect them and link Britain with the continent. After the ice melted, some 12,000 years ago, the bridge to Ireland was quickly inundated. But the English Channel was not flooded until almost 8,000 years ago. A few snakes managed to get from Europe to Britain before the breach; Britain has three species. None made it to Ireland.

Taken from the book "The Snake Almanac" by Edward R. Ricciuti
[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2002, 01:39 AM
telefrag's Avatar
telefrag telefrag is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: DFW Texas
Posts: 5,514
Thanks: 103
Thanked 389 Times in 281 Posts
Points: 4,081.46
Bank: 19,212,537.29
Total Points: 19,216,618.75
Donate
Rep Power: 1063
telefrag has a reputation beyond reputetelefrag has a reputation beyond reputetelefrag has a reputation beyond reputetelefrag has a reputation beyond reputetelefrag has a reputation beyond reputetelefrag has a reputation beyond reputetelefrag has a reputation beyond reputetelefrag has a reputation beyond reputetelefrag has a reputation beyond reputetelefrag has a reputation beyond reputetelefrag has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to telefrag


81555

I thought they were absent from those areas cause they went on vacation to the Rivera and decided not to go back. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

Ok silly mode: OFF
[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2002, 02:01 AM
ChrisRezendes ChrisRezendes is offline
Regular RTB User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 319
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 1,604.81
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,604.81
Donate
Rep Power: 23
ChrisRezendes is on a distinguished road
81558

Actually, before reading this, I was of the opinion that there were some serious political problems in ancient Europe that drove the snakes away. A band of young and rebel snakes decided to revolt against King Brown of the Serpents' empire. Most snakes tired of the political upheaval and the loss of reptilian life involved, and moved into Africa, the Middle East, or simple swam to the Americas. But now I know better.

_________________
You know she's a winner.
She couldn't be thinner.
Now she goes to the bathroom
to vomit up dinner.
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2002, 04:09 AM
Kohm Kohm is offline
Regular RTB User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Singapore, far away from everyone else!
Posts: 273
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 2,559.13
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 2,559.13
Donate
Rep Power: 21
Kohm is on a distinguished road
81567

Chris, you have been really challenging all of us with your fantastically fascinating and intricate posts recently... [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]

I am inclined to believe that glaciation and the high latitudes reduced Europe's snake species, but I don't think that all this happened so long ago, though.


[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2002, 04:16 AM
XzyluM XzyluM is offline
I am an RTB Addict !
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,879
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 3,979.63
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 3,979.63
Donate
Rep Power: 86
XzyluM is on a distinguished road
81569

Very interesting Chris. Might have to see if I can pick up this book and give it a read.
[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2002, 05:05 AM
ChrisRezendes ChrisRezendes is offline
Regular RTB User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 319
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 1,604.81
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,604.81
Donate
Rep Power: 23
ChrisRezendes is on a distinguished road
81589

<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE> Chris, you have been really challenging all of us with your fantastically fascinating and intricate posts recently... [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]

I am inclined to believe that glaciation and the high latitudes reduced Europe's snake species, but I don't think that all this happened so long ago, though. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

As much as I would LOVE to take credit for this most excellent research, I lifted it straight from my all time favorite snake book, The Snake Almanac by Ed Ricciuti. I swear I would jump at the chance to read anything else this guy ever puts out. That book was simply amazing [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]
[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Points Per Thread View: 0.25
Points Per Thread: 1.00
Points Per Reply: 0.50

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:13 PM.


Unsecured Loans | Venta chalets Denia | Mortgage Calculator | Personal Loans | Loans
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6
Copyright 2000-2004 Redtailboa.net. The comments are property of their posters,
Redtailboa.net Top Herp Sites
[Output: 95.28 Kb. compressed to 90.21 Kb. by saving 5.08 Kb. (5.33%)]