The rarest boids in the world

[telefrag]

Who cares to take a guess at which two boas are on top of the "worlds rarest" list.

Number 1: a native to Brazil, has no living specimens in any collection in the world.


Number 2: a small island dweller that is the focus of a breeding program and has reintroduction plans.


Latin names are preferred, but if a common name is found that cannot be confused with another species, than great, lets hear it.
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[BWSmith]

Telefrag, did you get a new book? [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img]

Just kidding. had to make a joke since you got me [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]
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[Fyre]

hmmmm the brazian caimen reticulated viper boa? lol
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<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE> Telefrag, did you get a new book?</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL....
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[Shadrach]

New book? I didn't even know he could read??

Sorry Telefrag around here you have to get, while the getting is good!

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[bigred]

is number 2 the Golden something Viper?
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[Voodoo]

Anoplohydrus aemulans Sumatran. Only known from a single specimin described in 1909

Oops, that was a Colubrid. Nevermind.

OH! Found the rarest:

Coallus Cropanii or Xenoboa aka Cropan's Boa. Only three known specimins have been collected to date, all from Sao Paulo, Brazil.

Well. I can't find the second one, if we're just talking Boas. Round Island Boas count?

Bolyeria multicarinata Round Island Burrowing Boa, last seen in 1975.
Or
Casarea dussumieri Round island Keel-scled Boa. Very rare.

I got a new book, decided to put it to use, lol.
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<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE>I got a new book, decided to put it to use, lol. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

OH NOOOOO.. Two with new books now ?

What book is it that you got voodoo ?

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[telefrag]

&gt;&gt;Anoplohydrus aemulans Sumatran. Only known from a single specimin described in 1909
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Oops, that was a Colubrid. Nevermind.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;OH! Found the rarest:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Coallus Cropanii or Xenoboa aka Cropan's Boa. Only three known specimins have been collected to date, all from Sao Paulo, Brazil.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Well. I can't find the second one, if we're just talking Boas. Round Island Boas count?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Bolyeria multicarinata Round Island Burrowing Boa, last seen in 1975.
&gt;&gt;Or
&gt;&gt;Casarea dussumieri Round island Keel-scled Boa. Very rare.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;I got a new book, decided to put it to use, lol.



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[telefrag]

&gt;&gt;Telefrag, did you get a new book? [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img]
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Just kidding. had to make a joke since you got me [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]



ha!
actually a book I got in 96, just unpacked it again after 3 years.

Kaleidoscopic Tree Boas
Stafford and Henderson
1996 Krieger publishing
ISBN 0-89464-975-2
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[ChrisRezendes]

<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE> Coallus Cropanii or Xenoboa aka Cropan's Boa. Only three known specimins have been collected to date, all from Sao Paulo, Brazil. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

They moved it from Xenoboa into Corallus. I'm not sure why, seeing as they haven't really had anything to study in order to make that decision as far as I know. Maybe they've been studying preserved specimens. Also, I don't think they were actually found in Sao Paulo (the population is estimated at somewhere around 17 million), but rather, on the outskirts of Sao Paulo.

I should also point out that the Round Island Burrowing Boa (not sure on latin name) is much more rare than Casarea dussumieri. The latter species is very rare indeed, but the former is actually considered to be extinct by some herpetologists.
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[Ed_r]

Having one of the rare species be a corallus really isn't fair. Most of the seperate ssp. is just an integrade with other localities. As numerous as corallus species is it is surprising they would be one of them. I think they really need to do dome genetic testing on them to determin with each ssp. which other ssps went into creating the new or rare ones. Now that would be intereseting!
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[JuliusSqueezer]

hmmm the title said boid...then the context changed to boas...as far as BOIDS go....my guess would be healthy ADULT green burms.
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[Voodoo]

I got &quot;Snake&quot; by Chris Mattison. It's a REALLY good book. It has the snake family tree in the back, even. With every snake in it. And the main book is kinda like those Time Life books, kinda. Very informative.
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<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE>as far as BOIDS go....my guess would be healthy ADULT green burms. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

LMAO Juls.. Ya sure ?? hehe

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[Bettina]

Oh man, I'd love it if someone would do some genetic testing on snakes to determine their places in the phylogenetic tree. Anyone know anyone who has the time and equipment to sequence the DNA of all the boids? That's what I want to do when I get my own lab. Then I'll figure out how to do homologous recombination in reptile systems, and that'll get me some sort of award. Then I'll breed axanthic anerythristic hypomelanistic BRBs and they're just be black and white and irridescent. It'll be great. Unfortunately, snakes have a relatively long generation period and so nobody's doing much research with them, so they're not sequencing their DNA and so we can't do much genetic testing on them. Wouldn't it be great if you could run a blood test on a 33% het for something to find out if it actually was het instead of having to wait until it matures to prove it out?

Bettina
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	Heterozygous Heterozygous - the animal carries the gene for a genetic trait but does not outwardly demonstrate the trait. Example: A boa that is het for albino looks normal but carries the albino gene. When it is bred to another het for albino boa or an albino boa, a percentage of the offspring will be albino.

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if we're gonna go into genetics what bout the only wc leucistic ball?
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	Wild caught wild caught

[najaboy]

Actually, it seems that the context has expanded rather than contracted. After all, neither Casarea nor Bolyeria are boids. I suppose if we were talking about the rarest boid and bolyeriid... [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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[telefrag]

&gt;&gt;Actually, it seems that the context has expanded rather than contracted. After all, neither Casarea nor Bolyeria are boids. I suppose if we were talking about the rarest boid and bolyeriid... [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]


boid or bolyeriid,
they are still basal macrostomatans [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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[Domingo]

ARRRRGGH!! So much latin. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img] My head is hurting [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img]

Carpe Cerevisi [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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