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10-29-2002, 10:32 PM
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81353
What ssp (not species) of rattlesnake typically doesnt develop a rattle?
and catalinensis is not an acceptable answer [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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10-29-2002, 10:53 PM
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There is no subspecies, it is Crotalus catalinensis, the Catalina Island Rattlesnake. It is also known as the Santa Catalina Rattlesnake and the Santa Catalina Island Rattlesnake, and of course the Rattleless Rattlesnake. But it is its own species, there is no ssp.
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10-29-2002, 10:59 PM
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EHHHHHHH
try again [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
It is well documented in a book by a prominent herpetologist.
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10-29-2002, 11:07 PM
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To my knowledge, there is no ssp. I have never seen a reference to a ssp for C catalinensis. Is this a paper, a book, his opinion, or widely accepted? I hope this doesn't turn into the Timber/Canebrake ordeal [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
If I find it to be a truly accepted ssp, I LOVE LEARNING RATTLERS [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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I like it when presents rattle! I want my Christmas Stocking to have a knot in it!
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10-29-2002, 11:40 PM
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OK OK, I will give a hint.
Its a relict Island form of C.ruber , answer to come!
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To my knowledge, the only two other ssp of ruber (other than ruber ruber) are Crotalus ruber lorenzoensis, San Lorenzo Island Diamond rattlesnake and Crotalus ruber lucansensis, San Lucan Island Diamond rattlesnake. I don't believe that either of these ssp are often lacking rattles.
BTW, I had to look up the ssp. Can't know 'em all off the top of your head [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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10-30-2002, 05:04 AM
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DING DING DING.
one of them was right.
lorenzoensis
Rubio:1998
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10-30-2002, 05:05 AM
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Alright,
that being said,
anyone want to take a stab at naming all the subspecies of Crotalus lepidus?
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