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Old 06-18-2006, 03:29 AM
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Look Whats this.... SE, NC.....

Just tought I would ask what you thought I found while mowing the grass here...... Wilmington, NC April, 15ish.
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Looks like a Pine Woods to me, but Im not real familiar with NC colubrids..They are said to be about 10-15" long with a shiny golden to a reddish brown coloring...Head being a bit darker, and the belly is normally yellow to white..I think they are native to your area though

If the stomach is red, it could be a red-phased Red Belly snake..Usually they are gray, or brown in color...They are primarily found under ground, though.. and they are roughly 10" max size..I cant tell length or stomach coloration really on your little guy.

Very attractive snake though!

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Looks like a Pine Woods to me, but Im not real familiar with NC colubrids..They are said to be about 10-15" long with a shiny golden to a reddish brown coloring...Head being a bit darker, and the belly is normally yellow to white..I think they are native to your area though
If the stomach is red, it could be a red-phased Red Belly snake..Usually they are gray, or brown in color...They are primarily found under ground, though.. and they are roughly 10" max size..I cant tell length or stomach coloration really on your little guy.
Very attractive snake though!
Sounds like you have a NASFG to NAR&A
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Sounds like you have a NASFG to NAR&A
LOL!!!! I have even better...called GOOGLE lmao..
Although I do have a couple of Field Guides
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I grew up on Field Guides...I have given field trips on the field guides..
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My back yard had copperheads, cottonmouths, and ratsnakes and eastern hognose....
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We had all sorts of colorful corns all around our old house. None here yet though, only one single copper.
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it is either a red-belly or a brown snake
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its a storeria species, not sure which one most look the same to me
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Pine woods Radinaea flavilata

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Pine woods Radinaea flavilata
granted, I dont live in an area where they occur so I havent seen them too often, but do Rhadinaea usually have a pair of stripes going down the whole dorsum? I thought they were relatively patternless.

I know storeria usually have stripes

just curious.. I dont see them in person hardly ever
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Description: Pine Woods Snakes measure 10-15 in. (25-38 cm) in length. Their dorsal coloration ranges from a shiny golden-brown to a reddish-brown and their scales are smooth. Sometimes a thin, faint, dark brown stripe runs along their back. A similar stripe may also be seen on the side of the snake. The head is a darker color than the rest of the snake and a dark line runs through the eye. The scales above the mouth are yellow. The bellies of these snakes are white or yellowish.

I got this from http://www.bio.davidson.edu/projects...s/Rha_fla.html
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its not a pine wood becuase a pine wood has a solid orange or brown body and a rather large head compaired to that one ( more long and pointy) this one also has what looks to be keeled scale and pine woods have smooth scales, plus the marking on the head don't match pine wood have stripes down the side and this one has 2 white marking on the back. it looks like it is red-bellied snake
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I guessed that too, I cant really see the scales on the pic...My eyes arent that good, and not having them as local snakes, I havent seen either in person. So, its just a guesstimate on my part based on descriptions
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i find about 20 pine woods a summer rangeing from 7" -15". i use to catch fl brown and red-bellies but the have become harder to find these last couple of years
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Looks like a Storeria occipitomaculata (Red-bellied Snake) to me. Easy enough to confirm just flip it over. Should look like this:

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Thats a great pic!!
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Oh...you know what? Perhaps I should actually click the thumbnail. I thought it was just a small photo lol...and I thought it was patternless..my bad.
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Oh...you know what? Perhaps I should actually click the thumbnail. I thought it was just a small photo lol...and I thought it was patternless..my bad.
Mine wont pop up the larger pic sometimes!
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