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04-21-2003, 01:49 AM
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Morti and I went over to the local park and here is what we found:
Water snakes:
Queen snake
Two water snakes came home with us [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] The Queen snake we let back into the tree.
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04-21-2003, 02:05 AM
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Good Job. I need to catch me a couple waters for Edu programs [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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04-21-2003, 07:46 AM
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nice I learned the hard way about messin with water snakes the tend to like to bite and they have rows of teeth not pretty looks like I might go out next weekend and see what I can find
JONNYB [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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04-21-2003, 08:26 AM
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<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE>JONNYB
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Jonny!!!
Stop with the gender changing!!!
ya confusing my sore little noodle!
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04-21-2003, 12:43 PM
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Nice! Enjoyed seeing your pics of snakes in the wild!
John
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04-21-2003, 12:53 PM
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Great catches!
I may be heading out next weekend too.
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Water Snake bite is alittle rough. They tend to chew in and they have an anticoagulant in their saliva so you bleed a lot! [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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04-21-2003, 06:21 PM
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s'matter, didn't have a supply of freshed molted cray fish to feed the queen snake? [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
And what species of water snake did you catch? They look like Midland's to me or maybe northerns, hard to tell from the pics.
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04-21-2003, 07:16 PM
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Thanks everyone! We had fun doing it.
J... check out my other post to see better pics of the Nerodia ssp we brought home. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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04-21-2003, 07:41 PM
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Hi J!
I have always called those northerns. I am pretty certain they are not Broadbands, and the northern and midland ranges do overlap here, so it could be either/or. Or they could be integrades.
And you are correct... Freshly molted crawdads are hard to come by. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Thanks for looking... we did have fun! [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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>><TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE>JONNYB
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>>Jonny!!!
>>Stop with the gender changing!!!
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>>ya confusing my sore little noodle!
Sorry bout that all but for some reason
I can only sign on as my self at the boat
It annoys me too
Morti I always thought that they were called norhtern water snakes or brown water snakes my self. But I'm not exactly sure maybe brown water snakes
[img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img] [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img] now my noodle is getting sore [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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04-21-2003, 10:08 PM
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Northerns and Browns are two different species. I have always debated wether these are midlands or northerns.
Now if I could just find a Kirklands... [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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The Kentucky Snakes site id's them as nerodia sipedon sipedon.
And, Hun... that's Kirtland's not Kirkland's [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img] (Clonophis kirtlandii)
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Thanks for sharing those LD, nice pics!!! [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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Northern's are the most variable watersnakes there are I think. Even specimens from the same locality can look fairly different. And they go through interesting color change as they grow, so it's harder when you can't tell what size they are. Juvenile Sipedons usually have a lot of rusty red coloration, espically along their sides that they don't have as neonates or sub-adults/adults.
Midland's usually have dark marking narrower than their light marking between them.
Were these large females or skinny little males?
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