can red tailed boas coexists w/ other snakes

obw · #1 (**permalink**) 10-27-2002, 02:36 AM

i have a female brazilian red tailed boa (6mths old approx 2 ft), a male albino corn snake(1yr3mths approx 3'6&quot

and a female rosey corn snake(1yr3mths approx 16&quot

and right now i have them in 2 seperate cages. the boas cage being 6'x2'x3' and would like to put the corn snakes in with her but i am wondering what would happen if i did [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img] if anyone could help me it would be greatly appreciated obw420@hotmail.com
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Stormyva · #2 (**permalink**) 10-27-2002, 02:43 AM

Someone will probably come along to elaborate more but.....
It is not recommended to put different types of snakes together. The corns together would be fine but putting them in with the boa is not good. The snakes could cause each other to become ill and the size differences could cause stress and or injury.

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froggystyle34 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-27-2002, 03:44 AM

NO NO NO!!! did i say no yet. you are trying to put two different species of snake in the same enclosure that is a big no no. the corn snake may have a parasite it is immune to and the boa isnt, or vice versa. these towo species do not co exist in the wild and should be forced to co exist in captivity. if you can not afford a cage for the corn snakes and boa get rid of some of them. two adult corn snakes can be housed comfortably in a 40 breeder aquarium, and they oinly run about 100 bucks where i am from.

froggy
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Axe · #4 (**permalink**) 10-27-2002, 04:09 AM

>>The corns together would be fine but putting them in with the boa is not good.

Sorry, I gotta disagree on that one. Didn't you see the sizes he said they were?

One's only 16" and the other's well over 3ft long. Housing the two together is just asking for trouble. Especially if they're both the same age and one is so much smaller, it just screams of parasite imho.

I'd get that 16" corn down to the vet, or at the very least get a fecal done so you can treat for any parasites they may have.

Now that's said... I wouldn't house either of the corns with the boa, regardless of their sizes.

The main arguments for not housing two different species together are..

1) Different species require usually require very different habitats. So, whilst you may be adequately caring for one, the other becomes (perhaps unintentionally) abused. Where two animals share the same type of habitat, often they are territorial and fights will arise over territorial disputes.

2) Different species of animals harbour many different kinds of internal nasties. Not nasties to them, as their bodies have developed to tolerate, or live with in a symbiotic relationship, over the generations. These things can be lethal to other snakes from different climates, continents, or even different parts of the same state, who've not been developing to tolerate these things to such levels.

So I really wouldn't do it [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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obw · #5 (**permalink**) 10-27-2002, 09:24 PM

for starters the 16" snake i just got and have taken it to the vet it just wasn't fed as much as the 3'6" so that is why it is allot smaller so don't think that i ain't taking care of these snakes [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img]
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Ed_r · #6 (**permalink**) 10-27-2002, 10:12 PM

The temperature requirements are very much different. These snake would NEVER come in contact with each other in the wild. Plus in general it's really not a good idea to keep multiple snakes in one encloure. Make it difficult to keep an eye on one snake, pooping etc. Plus corn snakes and Boa have totally different flora and bacteria about them. Just a real big No No.
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cb76 · #7 (**permalink**) 10-27-2002, 11:07 PM

they require different care tactics. boas are tropical, corns arent.
whle you may not stress the boa, you will likely stress the corn. that leads to a ton of ill effects eventually leading to death.

the big snake may crush the lil snake.

each has their own stomach bacteria that are unique to their own bodies and there locales. each snake has built up their own immunities to this. some of these bacterias are released through poop and pee and by exposing the other snake to it you are likely to get them sick and eventually kill them.

a nervous corrn will pee and poop a lot- therre goes the boa.

stress can and does cause a dull demenor, lack of appetite, supression of immune system (the guts in there own bodies will multiply out of control taking over the host- not to mention the out side diseases)
and this can lead to stavation death- which is cruel or they can die in the above mentioned means- which is cruel too!

strait up- not saying bad against you so dont twist this....if you cant afford proper housing for ALL of the species you keep (even ones that are the same)- then you shouldnt have these animals.

a corn and rosy can go in lil enclosures. the boa will eventually need some thing 4l x 2w x what ever height you want.

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obw · #8 (**permalink**) 10-28-2002, 03:37 AM

thanx just got the boa but she's already in the cage that's 6'lx3'hx2'djust thought it might be nice if they could all just live as one big family will try sending photos at later date kind of new [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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najaboy · #9 (**permalink**) 10-28-2002, 08:31 AM

These are solitary creatures, and do not get any benefit from communal housing. On the contrary, more harm than good is done when keeping them together.

As for the corns, I wouldn't even house them together. The size difference is daunting. Even if the smaller corn is not eaten, it will certainly be stressed.
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Stormyva · #10 (**permalink**) 10-28-2002, 02:51 PM

Good catch Axe... missed the size difference in the corns!
Thank you for correcting that one!
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JuliusSqueezer · #11 (**permalink**) 10-28-2002, 06:48 PM

Just the idea of this makes me cringe. It is apparent that you have acquired animals with either no research into each animal's specific husbandry needs or you just don't care. Please.....take time and read care sheets and see to it that each animal has the proper gradient of temps / humidity and appropriate space to dwell in. People release boas all over the country all the time here in Georgia and I am sure other places in the US....I think in South Florida some actually have been surviving for years. But here in Georgia they don't make it past the first winter. But the cornsnakes do. hmm My guess is that these two animals probably have different climate requirements.
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obw · #12 (**permalink**) 10-29-2002, 02:26 AM

well i guess i am just an idiot but if you read the "caresheets carefully"they contradict exactly what you said about temps anyway CORNS BOAS
warmside temp 85F-90F background temp.86F-88F
nighttime drop 5F-10F nightime 80F
humidity moderate humidity moderate-high
and since i am illiterate i have troubles reading but somehow i pulled through chat later [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img]
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