Very Ill Elderly Snake - Page 6

Icicle · #**101** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakegurl13

OH my gosh that is cheap! i should move where ever you live!!! just to see the vet on monday is going to cost me over $100!! that doesnt include to tests they will run!! so im terrified to see the whole costs..

That's accuracy a pretty good deal. that also might include the drive time or home call price too.

Snakegurl13 · #**102** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sakara

snake can also sense the heat coming off your breath... when you talk to them they know that your mouth temp is hott and may follow it... considering we are a toasty 98.6degrees on average, that's pretty warm haha.

i still think my snakes know when I talk sweetly with them though

well he will "hear" me when he's sitting across the room... he'll lift his head up and come my direction.. and i for one think most animals are a mystery when it comes to what they can an cannot do or think or see or hear or whatever!

SUAD · #**103** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Icicle

Suad even though they don't have ears like us, they can feel vibrations.
Take a look a blind person, they put different buzzers on different things cause they can feel the vibrations.

I already said they can feel vibrations.

Sakara · #**104** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakegurl13

Alrighty! well im 100% sure of my ground temps (as my gauges no longer stick to the glass... they sit in the dirt, plus the ones on the glass) i personally had those under tank heaters burn up... after maybe four months .. i did it twice, and gave up because it didnt heat our tank well enough, and it was the biggest one i can find! the bulbs on the other hand last a little longer for about the same price... provide heat, light (for viewing reasons at night) UV during the day, (my experience my snakes are overall happier with uv lights) and you can always adjust a lamp, (moving it away or closer to the cage). Not that i should have to explain, how it works, or why i choose it? And to say i love my pets... that would be an understatment! but im not proving my snake love to some dude on the internet! anyone who knows me knows i love them like i love my children! (even if you dont think so

) and im not going to argue over wheather my snake can (and does) respond to voices and other settle noises! Thanks for your words tho!

did you have the UTH on a dimmer?? i have UTH's under mine and I know those things can get HOT and if they don't have proper breathing room then they can blow or even catch on fire... my carpet is proof of that.... there is a 'bleach' looking spot on one part of our carpet where a UTH didn't have enough breathing space...

I have the UTH under my preggo Bolivian turned almost all the way down because it gets so hot on it's own... when I was first setting it up I figured having them on medium settings would be good... NO! medium settings allowed for a 120 degree hot spot

now it's at a nice slightly toasty 91 lol

SUAD · #**105** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakegurl13

Alrighty! well im 100% sure of my ground temps (as my gauges no longer stick to the glass... they sit in the dirt, plus the ones on the glass) i personally had those under tank heaters burn up... after maybe four months .. i did it twice, and gave up because it didnt heat our tank well enough, and it was the biggest one i can find! the bulbs on the other hand last a little longer for about the same price... provide heat, light (for viewing reasons at night) UV during the day, (my experience my snakes are overall happier with uv lights) and you can always adjust a lamp, (moving it away or closer to the cage). Not that i should have to explain, how it works, or why i choose it? And to say i love my pets... that would be an understatment! but im not proving my snake love to some dude on the internet! anyone who knows me knows i love them like i love my children! (even if you dont think so

) and im not going to argue over wheather my snake can (and does) respond to voices and other settle noises! Thanks for your words tho!

You are 100% correct, you don't need to explain ANYTHING to me anymore.

Icicle · #**106** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SUAD

I already said they can feel vibrations.

Oops, I missed that someplace, me bad.

HERPHAPPY · #**107** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 02:42 AM

Snakes can feel vibrations very well, esp. in glass tanks! In fact, so can we...try it! Voices can be felt, and bass notes in music/tv quite well. When I kept rattlesnakes, I noticed on more than one occasion they'd start rattling (several rooms away) when I accidentally closed a cupboard door kinda hard in the kitchen, and that house was not tiny! Snakes may be technically 'deaf' but respond to vibrations.

Snakegurl13 · #**108** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sakara

did you have the UTH on a dimmer?? i have UTH's under mine and I know those things can get HOT and if they don't have proper breathing room then they can blow or even catch on fire... my carpet is proof of that.... there is a 'bleach' looking spot on one part of our carpet where a UTH didn't have enough breathing space...
I have the UTH under my preggo Bolivian turned almost all the way down because it gets so hot on it's own... when I was first setting it up I figured having them on medium settings would be good... NO! medium settings allowed for a 120 degree hot spot

now it's at a nice slightly toasty 91 lol

No it was just the zoo med ( I THINK IM NOT SURE!!) brand under the tank heater... i paid around 40 bucks for it from Petco (thats the only pet store near here) and it didnt have a dimmer or anything!

Sakara · #**109** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 02:46 AM

that's probably why it burned out lol. I have the little zoo me ones too and they have lasted 2 years

I'll be switching to flexwatt soon with herpstat thermos

Icicle · #**110** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 02:47 AM

Check out the Bean Farm they have a good selection for heating.
- The Bean Farm
and they are very friendly too.

Sakara · #**111** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Icicle

That's accuracy a pretty good deal. that also might include the drive time or home call price too.

that's pretty expensive from what I've seen o.o I pay a $45 exam fee for my snakes when they get seen... plus any tests and meds if needed...

I'm starting to think Texas is pretty cheap for a lot of stuff >.>

I've heard of necropsies and pathology running $500+ from some ppl... the couple that we had done were $100 for necropsy and about $80 in tissue samples for the ones we did that on... I will do those for any animal we ever lose... I feel that it is invaluable information and could rule out anything possibly bad... when I lost my Burm recently I didn't know what the heck happened... found out she was malnurished as a young snake and suffered from liver issues and fat build ups from previous owner(s)... I got her as a 3 year old Burmese at only 7 feet... she was on a perfect diet while I had her of rabbits and some big ol rats, but even with proper care, previous neglect of proper care got to her

really sucks when you lose and animal from something you couldn't control

M2788 · #**112** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakegurl13

OH my gosh that is cheap! i should move where ever you live!!! just to see the vet on monday is going to cost me over $100!! that doesnt include to tests they will run!! so im terrified to see the whole costs..

LOL, I wouldn’t recommend it, even I am moving a couple of states away soon.

To be fair though in regards to pricing Jasper was only fifteen inches long and 33 grams when he died; I am sure it would have been more costly if he’d been a larger variety of boa like a BCI. I truly miss that snake.

Icicle · #**113** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 03:04 AM

Last I called a house call was $105 just for the visit and a check up. that's up here is Washington .

louise · #**114** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakegurl13

Well.. weather he has "ears" or not.. he responds to voices... They say that when you loose a sense (being eye sight) you gain a little with your other senses. who's to say that can't be true with a snake?? And the reason i don't do under the tank heaters are they burn up rather quick, i dont find it cost effective... and as long as the tempatures on the ground (where the snake is) are the proper temps.. i dont see a problem in the world with heat lamps... mine are on the outside of the tank, spaced from the lid.. No burns! There are diffrent ways to Raise, and love your snakes... and i choose to use the heat lamps! Thanks tho.

snakes feel vibrations and i believe 100% they know their owners. may it be vibration or seeing them or whatever. i know chance and my DUM follow me with their eyes.

HERPHAPPY · #**115** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Icicle

Check out the Bean Farm they have a good selection for heating.
- The Bean Farm
and they are very friendly too.

Snakegurl, I've used Flexwatt for decades! It is not expensive and is very safe and durable...and being lightweight, it is easier to install. You cut it to the length needed, follow the directions...(Bean Farm carries it) You need it connected to a lamp dimmer (aka rheostat) or thermostat (better control but higher price). I highly recommend uth heat, as heat works best from the floor up, so the snake's belly can feel it. I have heard of other's having problems with Zoo Med uths...and they tend to overheat! (tried a couple myself! hate them!) They are overpriced on top of that...

Icicle · #**116** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 03:16 AM

I got the biggest rhp they offer for my bci cage.

louise · #**117** (**permalink**) 08-03-2010, 03:17 AM

i use human heat pads. they work great and are very cheap. you just have to make sure they are not the ones that go off once they reach their temperature. i use to use zoo med.

nitram · #**118** (**permalink**) 08-06-2010, 12:08 AM

good to see it's going to be seen by a vet. hope it's not too late and something can be done to better the quality of life.
snakes feel vibrations, as already established. im not an accoustic pro or anything but if i remember correctly sound travels via vibrations that are picked up by little hairs/nerves in our ears.
i used zoo med heat pads (actually i still do for a couple of enclosures, the king and leo are setup with them). theyve worked out fine for me. flexwatt is cheaper and more practical (i heat up 8 enclosures with 4 strips and can probly heat up more if i wanted to).
good luck with the snake.

Diabellical · #**119** (**permalink**) 08-18-2010, 01:13 AM

snakegurl,
Glad you have the snake seeing a vet (hopefully rep. vet). Can I ask which zoo you contacted?
Thanks

TammyJamaica · #**120** (**permalink**) 08-20-2010, 08:51 PM

Is the boa still alive? Has a vet seen it?

I feel so sorry for it.

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