Why are burms so popular?

[JuliusSqueezer]

LOL...OK I just read the last few pages. Pretty funny stuff. The other DB is DavidBeard...constant little herp forum troll that never seems to get along with anyone anywhere for very long. He just blew his second chance here for trolling another thread trying to pick a fight with louise with similar comments lol...The difference though is your comments were somewhat in line with the conversation. His was just an attempt to start a very unprovoked flame.

Dwarf burms...morphspecialties is run by a young girl who aquired these animals allegedly from or with help from the guy who was convicted of stealing Bob Clark's albino ball python project way back whenever. If she had ever even kept a snake before she was launched into the fame and glory of the dwarf burm project, I am unaware but am told by reliable sources that she went in with little or no prior experience and I would be very careful about spending the big bucks on these animals without finding out a great deal more info on her. Maybe they are tip top animals and she has everything under control and is producing the best of the best. I really don't know but the fact that mere months after acquiring these animals, she was already pairing them up with albinos, greens and other morphs and talking of plans to breed the "hets" back to make morphed dwarphs...I don't in any way agree with her breeding ethics and therefore will never be a customer of hers. But that's just how I feel about all of this and other opinions on the matter may vary. I won't even take a FREE burm from anyone that I know has or has ever kept and especially bred green burms. I won't buy a stick of gum from anyone who breeds ANY burms...but again...that's just my hardheaded ethical hangup.

There is such a thing as denatured alcohol btw. Next time you are in walmart, lowes, home depot...any hardware store or paint store...go down the paint aisle till you find solvents and look at the little metal cans of denatured alcohol. BWSmith suggested I use it to preserve a dead rattlesnake so I did and 3 months later, it looks the exact same as it did when I put it in there and it doesn't stink.

I think the "pouring alcohol" on a snakes head has gotten a bit out of hand. I think whoever started this probably (hopefully) meant drinking alcohol like rum or vodka. If you pour any other type of alcohol like denatured or rubbing alcohol and ANY gets into the snake's mouth and especially the glottis, you are likely looking at a dead snake. Drinking alcohol (aka booze) would probably not be any better to get down the glottis but if the head is tilted down so the mouth is pointed at the floor and a small bit is squirted into the mouth in a way that it will spill back out and not go down the throat or glottis of the snake, the snake will let go and should suffer no harm. However, If we are talking about an 18 foot python and you are 5-10 seconds from blacking out and being dead...save yourself, whatever it takes. As bad as it is to hear about a dead snake, dead herpers are no fun to hear about either.

	Morph A morph is a color or pattern variation that is proven to be genetic. Common morphs include albino, anerythristic, gentically striped, Hypomelanistic, and many others. Morphs also include combinations of simple traits such as "Sunglow" which is Albino and Hypomelanistic. These traits may be recessive traits, co-dominant traits, dominant traits, or created through selective breeding (ie Pastel).

[Dbutton]

Well the 151 is what I personally have sitting next to my burms cages. I think it mostly just topically burns their eyes and mouth just like it would do if one of us were doused in the face with it. My burms are big enough to do damage if they ever got a mind to, which I don't think they will since they are the laziest snakes ever, and I would rather they get a little bit of burned mouth than me laying there with my eyes bugged out for my wife to find. I also have a large very sharp knife next to the 151 just in case of a real life or death struggle. I know that sounds bad, but the danger is real and all burm owners should always be prepared for this type of thing no matter how long you have had your snake or how much you trust them they are wild animals and there is always a danger that they could turn on you.


David

[JuliusSqueezer]

I'm with ya man. I keep a sharp knife near the burm cages too. I love my snakes but if I ever have to cut through one to save my own life...guess I'll be renting a ditch witch to bury Max with

I don't think the alcohol would burn their eyes though. I may be wrong but I really don't see how it would since their eyes are set under a layer of impermeable keratin based skin. Eyecaps, although often break loose from shedding skin are still part of that whole one piece of protective skin with no breaks anwhere till the inside of the mouth and the deepest depths of the nostrils, vent and any other opening where things come out or go in...tip of hemepenes, heat vents etc...or that may be it "shrug" Snakes is water tight though...eyeballs and all. Keratin doesn't even break down in gastric acids so they are probably ok with alcohol too ...it's the vapors going up the nostrils or the burn of it hitting the inside of the mouth (mucous membranes) that freaks them out and makes them let go....I guess. I hope I'm right anway. Burning the eyes with alcohol doesn't sound too nice lol.

[snakemann6]

I have to agree with you DButton, loosing a snake is better than loosing your life. Everyone has their special guru about everything, so i think that it's best to agree to disagree. I mean, everyone still is going to do what they want to do and how they want to do it. But for me, I don't think the 151 would be a good idea, because that's my favorite drink of all times. I'm just going to stick with the rubbing alcohol. if anyone disagree, it's a free country so make up your own mind and own method. Sorry to offend anyone...hey to each it's own. Different strokes for different folks...

	1.1 One Male and One Female

[Dbutton]

I have been told that vodka works really well too if that would be less of a temptation. LOL!


David

[snakemann6]

I would try that as well...But i like vodka as well...as long as it is Greygoose or Belvedire (however you spell it...) i like...