Day 1 of complete raw diet for my Rotties :D

[Rachel SS]

they got a chicken thigh for din din after a 24 hour fast, and one still acts funny about eating the bone, she licks it clean of any meat the just nibbles on the bone for 20 minutes before she cracks it and eats it


Neither of them know what in the world they should do with whole eggs though. They crack them with their teeth, stare at the stuff that oozes out, lick it, smash it wit their paw, lick more, smash again, rinse and repeat.

Excited for easy to clean chalky poop and spending less and getting more health benefits though

[Tom]

I am pretty sure you should not let dogs eat chicken or pork bones. They splinter and can get stuck in the digestive track and kill your dogs. The only bones I know you can let them eat are beef bones as they don't splinter.

Take care
Tom

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[HERPHAPPY]

Originally Posted by Tom

I am pretty sure you should not let dogs eat chicken or pork bones. They splinter and can get stuck in the digestive track and kill your dogs. The only bones I know you can let them eat are beef bones as they don't splinter.
Take care
Tom

That's my understanding too?

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[Rachel SS]

Chicken bones cannot be COOKED and given to dogs. It's actually really good for them to eat raw chicken bones.

Depending on the breed, large dogs should not eat chicken wings or necks. They can choke on those. I will post some links for raw diet info for anyone curious.

It's actually recommended by many vets too.

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[Rachel SS]

THE MANY MYTHS ABOUT RAW FEEDING
Raw Meaty Bones
Jane Anderson's Raw Learning Site
Raw Feeding FAQ
BARF for Beginners - Most Frequently Asked Questions
Bluegrace Portuguese Water Dogs - Raw Feeding the PWD
The Dog Food Project - How does your Dog Food Brand compare?
http://www.boxerworld.com/forums/vie...y-dog-food.htm

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[mongoose5971]

That's only if you cook them. A raw diet is a very healthly alternative to kibble and eating raw bones does amazing things for the teeth. BARF Diet - Healthy & Natural Raw Food For Dogs & Cats, Pet Health Care Food & Nutrition Products Supply Online

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[Rachel SS]

Guys, I understand your concern when you hear chicken bones, but please don't thank posts with false information if you aren't going to read the 8 links I posted that have factual information about feeding raw food to dogs.

I'd rather people read the links and learn something new and maybe give their dogs the healthiest diet possible and not be scared off by a misinformed post.

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[mongoose5971]

Beat me to it!

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[Ranger]

Originally Posted by Rachel SS

please don't thank posts with false information if you aren't going to read the 8 links I posted that have factual information about feeding raw food to dogs.

How can you tell what people have or have not read? And people can read information and reject it in favor of other information.

I personally know for a fact that dogs can't cook, so their natural diet would be raw, but I don't care what free people do with their own animals as long as it isn't blatantly abusive.

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[Rachel SS]

Originally Posted by Ranger

How can you tell what people have or have not read? And people can read information and reject it in favor of other information.
I personally know for a fact that dogs can't cook, so their natural diet would be raw, but I don't care what free people do with their own animals as long as it isn't blatantly abusive.

What point are you making here? There's proof that raw chicken bones are great for dogs to consume and people are believing false information. If they took the time to read they'd see they were wrong.

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[Tom]

Originally Posted by Rachel SS

THE MANY MYTHS ABOUT RAW FEEDING
Raw Meaty Bones
Jane Anderson's Raw Learning Site
Raw Feeding FAQ
BARF for Beginners - Most Frequently Asked Questions
Bluegrace Portuguese Water Dogs - Raw Feeding the PWD
The Dog Food Project - How does your Dog Food Brand compare?
http://www.boxerworld.com/forums/vie...y-dog-food.htm

Thanks for the links I will be checking them out and checking with my vet. I was just concerned about your dogs and wanted to let you know what I have always been told.

Take care
Tom

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[mongoose5971]

I'd consider feeding a dog grocery store kibble borderline abusive...Really though, a raw diet is the best thing you could do for any potentially kibble-fed animal. There are sooo many health benefits, it's just a little more time-consuming to keep a balanced diet. But if done right you will have a very healthy animal.

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[mongoose5971]

Some vets will try to steer you away from raw or other non-traditional dogfoods because they get funding from the dogfood companies. Not all of them, but many.

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[Rachel SS]

Originally Posted by Tom

Thanks for the links I will be checking them out and checking with my vet. I was just concerned about your dogs and wanted to let you know what I have always been told.
Take care
Tom

My post was not meant to attack or bash you, so please don't take it that way. The posts are full of LOTS of great information and there are lots of books out there to get great information from vets that promote and feed raw diet.


Much like the snake world, the dog world is full of people promoting their own agenda. There is a society called "The Delta Society" that promotes dog food brands, that recently started encouraging the feeding of Purina dog food - Purina uses soy products and corn, which is unhealthy and cannot be digested by dogs.

After doing some research, one of the chairs for this society is a Purina employee named Brenda Baxtor, if I recall correctly.

Also, many vets will promote Science Diet and other foods because Science Diet gives scholarships and sponsors veterinarians through their schooling

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[HERPHAPPY]

Rachel, I have looked thru some of the links and would love to see the supposed credentials of the person(s) recommending this diet....anyone can call themselves a "Dr" online, &/or write a book. I'd be inclined to ask my trusted vet about this diet, if I were considering it for my canines. Then again, maybe they'd love the extra business...?

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[Rachel SS]

Originally Posted by HERPHAPPY

Rachel, I have looked thru some of the links and would love to see the supposed credentials of the person(s) recommending this diet....anyone can call themselves a "Dr" online, &/or write a book. I'd be inclined to ask my trusted vet about this diet, if I were considering it for my canines. Then again, maybe they'd love the extra business...?

Give me a while to do some research and I can give you some links and books. Also, I'd give your local vets a call and talk to them about feeding raw diet, and ask them what they personally feed their dogs.

Some vets will say stuff about e.coli and salmonella, but dogs immune systems are better than ours for fighting these bacteria - dogs lick their own privates and will eat cat poop (I always catch mine trying to stick their head in the cat box, EW). The bacteria excuse is really overhyped and the number one excuse given against raw feeding.

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[Rachel SS]

Here are 5 vets who wrote articles about the benefits of raw diet:

Raw Meaty Bones

edit - there is one link on here that gives a list of books and articles written by doctors about the health benefits for raw diet

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[mongoose5971]

I know, personally, in person, in real life many UFVetMed students and employees. The vetmed program here is very big and respected, a very hard program to get into. I know for a fact Science Diet gives them all free and reduced cost food. I also know for a fact the program spends so very little time on the benefits of raw feeding that I would not trust any of the school's graduates to know anything about it. Additionally, I can go into any pet store chain or supermarket and read the labels on the bags. For example, here are the ingredients (copied and pasted from the Purina website) of Purina "Complete and Balanced" Dog Chow
Whole grain corn, poultry by-product meal, corn gluten meal, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), meat and bone meal, brewers rice, soybean meal, whole grain wheat, egg and chicken flavor, animal digest, salt, calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, calcium phosphate, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, choline chloride, zinc sulfate, added color (Yellow 6, Yellow 5, Red 40, Blue 2), DL-Methionine, Vitamin E supplement, zinc proteinate, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, manganese proteinate, niacin, Vitamin A supplement, brewers dried yeast, copper sulfate, calcium pantothenate, copper proteinate, garlic oil, pyridoxine hydrochloride, Vitamin B-12 supplement, thiamine mononitrate, Vitamin D-3 supplement, riboflavin supplement, calcium iodate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), folic acid, biotin, sodium selenite.
W-4101
Yuck.

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[Rachel SS]

Dogs shouldn't eat garlic, i'm glad to know that purina cares and puts that in their food anyway wow

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[Ophiophilia]

Yay!

We just started our Boston Terrier puppy on raw. All our dogs and ferrets are fed raw.

Here she is eating a whole chicken:



You're going to love raw. It's so affordable (for us atleast) and our animals are doing great on it.

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