Last chance..... - Page 9

mpgt · #**161** (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sakara

He never gets smacked, yelled at or anything else unless he's doing something bad...
and he does NOT get constantly yelled at, smacked, hit, whatever...

What more could a dog want?

kellymack515 · #**162** (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sakara

But due to me not feeling that I need to explain myself to anyone that wants to just put in their .02 in, I'm done with asking advice in this thread...

If you don't want advice, then why create a thread asking for advice on a forum that has next to nothing to do with dogs? If you want serious help, go to a GSD forum. Not to say that you haven't been offered great advice or that people here aren't well-versed in the care and training of dogs like Koda. Flip it around though. What if someone posted an RTB question on a GSD forum? They might get great advice but that's not really the place to ask. And don't open yourself up to input or criticism if you don't want to listen or explain yourself. You ask for advice and continually go on the defensive. It's incredibly off-putting and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way. Sorry if this is a bit of a rant but it really irritates me when people waste time asking for advice and only listen to what they want to hear while completely disregarding and insulting all other input.

mpgt · #**163** (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 05:52 PM

Thia is the "domesticated mammals" forum. Nothing wrong with coming here for advice, or rejecting some of it. That's her perogative. It's just another issue that gets people emotional because opinions differ so widely. I'm glad people care enough to get upset.

Sakara · #**164** (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 05:53 PM

as I stated, I thanked the people that have given sound advice from experience and training. I appreciate their help.

but I'm sure you wouldn't take snake advice from someone who has had no experience, so how is that different then what I'm doing? taking advice from ppl that have the experience.

kellymack515 · #**165** (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mpgt

Thia is the "domesticated mammals" forum. Nothing wrong with coming here for advice, or rejecting some of it. That's her perogative. It's just another issue that gets people emotional because opinions differ so widely. I'm glad people care enough to get upset.

And if there was a "Reptiles" sub-forum in a GSD forum? It's smart to go there and ask advice on an aggressive RTB? Not a bad idea but there are better places to go to get more professional and experienced advice. I'm not trying to be abrasive; there's just a better way to go about this. And rejecting advice is one thing. To say that you're just not going to take any more advice and that you don't feel like you need to explain yourself is another. This is a public forum and if someone is going to start a thread about an aggressive animal, they should be ready to field any and all questions. Aggression can have multiple causes and without knowing everything, there's no good way to give advice.

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Originally Posted by Sakara

as I stated, I thanked the people that have given sound advice from experience and training. I appreciate their help.

but I'm sure you wouldn't take snake advice from someone who has had no experience, so how is that different then what I'm doing? taking advice from ppl that have the experience.

But there are people with MORE experience out there Ashley! You've been saying that you're going to get Koda into training since your first thread about his aggression issues. Have you yet? If you have, AWESOME! If not, why are you waiting? I'm probably about to be accused of stepping out of line or being mean or whatever but right now I don't care about that. I care about the animals.

You went out and adopted a shepherd mix, a breed known for having dominance/aggression issues, and did not immediately go into training? He was returned once by a family for "getting mad that their 2 year old baby was hitting him" and didn't take that as an immediate indicator that he needs some hardcore discipline? If he's going to "get mad" at a 2 year old for hitting him, why would he be okay with you doing it? You're bigger, badder, and scarier to him than a 2 year old could ever be. You cannot accept the care of an animal who is already exhibiting warning signs of aggression without plans to curb it. I know you love Koda. I do not question that in the least. But adopting this type of dog with this history without doing serious research into training is like jumping into snake-keeping without doing research on basic things like the need to isolate new snakes, the risks of cohabitation, or breeding compatibility.

You can ask for as much advice as you want. Whether or not you implement it is up to you. Please get some training today or find a shepherd rescue to take him today. Koda's life depends on it. And that's the only reason I'm getting frustrated.

RayRay · #**166** (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kellymack515

And if there was a "Reptiles" sub-forum in a GSD forum? It's smart to go there and ask advice on an aggressive RTB? Not a bad idea but there are better places to go to get more professional and experienced advice. I'm not trying to be abrasive; there's just a better way to go about this. And rejecting advice is one thing. To say that you're just not going to take any more advice and that you don't feel like you need to explain yourself is another. This is a public forum and if someone is going to start a thread about an aggressive animal, they should be ready to field any and all questions. Aggression can have multiple causes and without knowing everything, there's no good way to give advice.
But there are people with MORE experience out there Ashley! You've been saying that you're going to get Koda into training since your first thread about his aggression issues. Have you yet? If you have, AWESOME! If not, why are you waiting? I'm probably about to be accused of stepping out of line or being mean or whatever but right now I don't care about that. I care about the animals.
You went out and adopted a shepherd mix, a breed known for having dominance/aggression issues, and did not immediately go into training? He was returned once by a family for "getting mad that their 2 year old baby was hitting him" and didn't take that as an immediate indicator that he needs some hardcore discipline? If he's going to "get mad" at a 2 year old for hitting him, why would he be okay with you doing it? You're bigger, badder, and scarier to him than a 2 year old could ever be. You cannot accept the care of an animal who is already exhibiting warning signs of aggression without plans to curb it. I know you love Koda. I do not question that in the least. But adopting this type of dog with this history without doing serious research into training is like jumping into snake-keeping without doing research on basic things like the need to isolate new snakes, the risks of cohabitation, or breeding compatibility.
You can ask for as much advice as you want. Whether or not you implement it is up to you. Please get some training today or find a shepherd rescue to take him today. Koda's life depends on it. And that's the only reason I'm getting frustrated.

Sorry, I agree 100% on this one. Not gonna lie.

All we can do is offer suggestions as to what you can do. How fortunate that there are a few us on this forum who have handled and work with large (sometimes) aggressive breeds on a regular basis.

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