Unidentified snake

Kohm · #1 (**permalink**) 08-04-2002, 05:55 PM

Hello,

Caught this guy in Southern Peninsula Malaysia at an altitude of about 2000 ft. I'm trying to identify it, I think it is some kind of keelback, most probably rhabdophis. It is neonatal. The thing in the background is a bottlecap. That's how small it is.

Thanks.
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Kohm · #2 (**permalink**) 08-04-2002, 05:58 PM

Sorry, I'm still new to this. Let's try to get the image up again. Hopefully.

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najaboy · #3 (**permalink**) 08-04-2002, 06:33 PM

The reason that it isn't working is that you are trying to post a picture that is on your hard drive. To post a picture to the forums, it must first be uploaded a picture-hosting site on the internet, such as photo.redtailboa.net
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Kohm · #4 (**permalink**) 08-05-2002, 06:36 AM

Thanx najaboy,

This should work. i posted it on a webpage of my own.

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Bry · #5 (**permalink**) 08-05-2002, 07:33 AM

Kohm, geocities doesn't allow pic posting on any other site. Angelfire, Tripod, and Webshots do that too. Try our albums at RTB photo album or Printroom.com.

Bry
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Kohm · #6 (**permalink**) 08-05-2002, 03:32 PM

It worked before, but when I open the page, a syntax error sometimes occurs that prevents the webpage from being displayed properly. Thanks anyway, I'm seriously hopeless with computers, but I'm exploring printroom now.
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XzyluM · #7 (**permalink**) 08-05-2002, 04:03 PM

That has to be the grooviest snake I have ever seen. No clue what it may be.

Need to copy/paste in new browsser... http://www.geocities.com/edkohm/unid...d_keelback.jpg

Kohm · #8 (**permalink**) 08-06-2002, 04:50 AM

See, now it works, though I can't be sure that it will again next time.

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Need to copy/paste in new browsser... http://www.geocities.com/edkohm/unid...d_keelback.jpg

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Sorry, I really don't understand comp terminology. What can I do to make sure it works all the time, next time?

Thanks XyluM!
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#9 (**permalink**) 08-06-2002, 02:34 PM

Shell out $20 and get an RTB photo album for a year [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img] Then if things don't work, you've got people to female dog to [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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Kohm · #10 (**permalink**) 08-06-2002, 04:16 PM

Unidentified snake

Alright everybody, I finally got this out. Thanks Riley, XyluM, Bry, Naja for your help in teaching me to post pix, now can you identify this fella?

It's quite active in the day, but sleeps at night. I'm trying to give it snails, and will try grasshoppers. It's grown a lot in the past 3 days which all the more indicates that it is most probably still neonatal.

It has a "Made in China" below ... just kidding. No seriously, it's real, what is it?

Thanks!
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BWSmith · #11 (**permalink**) 08-06-2002, 05:19 PM

Ya got me........... But now I am curious. I will forward to some people and see if they have any ideas.
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BWSmith · #12 (**permalink**) 08-06-2002, 05:22 PM

BTW:, here is the pic

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Ed_r · #13 (**permalink**) 08-06-2002, 05:32 PM

A type of Cat snake maybe?
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BWSmith · #14 (**permalink**) 08-07-2002, 01:42 AM

My vote is for "no" as a Cat Snake. But hen i don't know either [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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Kohm · #15 (**permalink**) 08-07-2002, 02:13 PM

When I first saw it, I thought that it might be a boiga nigriceps, cos it looked like the pic in my book. But this guy's got round pupils, and cat snakes have slit pupils, so I don't think it is.
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#16 (**permalink**) 08-07-2002, 02:23 PM

It's so hard to tell when they're little...is the measuring device in the background metric (cm) or standard (inches)?
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BWSmith · #17 (**permalink**) 08-09-2002, 01:20 AM

Here is Tim Jackson's take on it.

<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE> I'd guess it's a Natricine of some sort....possible Pseudoxenodon or Xenochrophis sp. But it's too hard to tell for sure with the juveniles as they can be so different from the adults in the keelbacks. Wait for it to grow up, don't let it bite you (some keelbacks, notably Rhabdophis sp. are lethal) and then show us another pic hehe </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>
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Kohm · #18 (**permalink**) 08-11-2002, 06:02 PM

Hi everyone, bad news, our little guy died on saturday afternoon. I was away in Tokyo over the weekend and my dad who was helping me mind all my pets said it went into spasms and flipped over and just died. My dad said it ate a couple of grasshoppers, which might have kind of choked it if they weren't small enough, or it might have died due to stress.

Anyway, one of my friends who studies herps and is doing his doctorate on frogs identified it. He said it's a Spotted Ground Snake, Liopeltis balioderum, related to ratsnakes and sandsnakes. He's dropping by to pick it up and preserve it for the university's collection.

Thank-you everybody for helping to identify it, and it's not lost in the name of science, I guess. I'll put up more pix of it anyway, since it's quite pretty.

By the way, BW, thanks for getting the great interview!
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