what is it? is it a cross?(pics)

[cornyballpython]

ok yall i need some help,
i found a snake, he he who would have thunk it i have an idea about what it is but i wont comment on that, cause i want every ones input...

i found him in NW Florida, or the panhandle of florida... so you dont go off guessing that its something from out west or whatever...

to add on the facts... hes about 2 1/2 foot long, rlly docile has not tried to bite me once, maybe an escaped breeding experiment?? who knows... he is a rlly prety snake i just want more facts on him.... like i said im not at a total loss as to what he is i just dont want my judgement geting in the way of yalls better eye of identification lol

His name is Issa meaning in african, God is our salvation or in Egyption, God saves... i have a thing for african names lol
Two dif. snake underbellies?

under belly near the head

tail under belly

two head shots
(it it the same snake)


and the full body (and my fake french manicure lol)

photos were taken with my moms Cannon Digital Rebel
thanks for looking

[nomadbean]

Rat snake of some kind, but that is not my part of the country so I am at a loss...
Trina
OMNIherp, LLC

[cornyballpython]

thanks i think its some kind of rat to.... just not what kind

[Genevieve]

It looks like a corn snake or rat snake.(They are basicly the same thing anyway.) Rat and corn snakes are native to florida and most are not aggressive so you may have just found a wild snake. Its very neat looking what ever it is.

	Corn Snake The Corn Snake or Red Rat Snake (Elaphe guttata) is a species of Rat Snake.

[telefrag]

looks like an amorous corn found a gray ratsnake

looks like either a gray rat or a little of both.

[wreckwriter]

Its a juvenile rat of some sort. When it gets older it will develop its adult colors. all rats look much the same young. The belly suggests red rat but not certain.

[cornyballpython]

so it may be a corn? or a rat or both... hmmm interesting well i fed him a nice f/t rat baby... about 2 hours ago i was making the rat twitch so it would look alive and then down it went in less than 5 mins.... hehe

i plan on keeping him (no flaiming, yelling) cause hes such a nice snake.... and even my dad likes him and says i can keep it wich is rare for my dad to say about a WC no matter what the kind, i guess he just likes the look of Issa but who knows

	Frozen/Thawed A rodent or other prey item that is frozen and then thawed to be fed to a reptile or other animal.

	Wild caught wild caught

[Pork Chops N' Corn Bread]

Have you treated him yet? Is he seperate from your collection? Judging by what everuone else says and they few things I noticed(the belly, scale arangement) he seems to be something of the corn or rat family. There are many kinds of corns and rats in florida and surrounding areas that some sort of a "mutt" rat is a possibility. Either way its a nice one, Give him a few years and it may be easier to tell

[JuliusSqueezer]

It's just a gray ratsnake. North florida gray rats normally have a little salmon on the belly. That's not unusual. Perhaps it has something to do with cornsnake influence at some point but probably not and if so, not much. Cornsnakes have heavily patterned heads as do crosses with other rats. So anyway, it's a gray ratsnake....fairly common in your area.

[cornyballpython]

my first impression was ooh its a grey rat, but when i looked at him close enough i was like. "hmmm hes not like any rat i have ever seen" soo yah...

is it possible for corns to breed with rats? i mean not to sound stupid or anything but i have not seen a rat with a brownish looking tail like that... about a year ago i got a 3' 6" grey rat the was all the grey color like the side shot of issas head... and his belly was almost alll white with some grey, thats why i am puzled so idk...

[cornyballpython]

any thoughts on Black Rats?? i found a site with belly shots and allaround buttload of pics of Black rats Clickie

so coming to a conclusion black rat?