lizard lounge tanks

deadboy · #1 (**permalink**) 10-29-2002, 12:16 AM

what do you guys think about lizard lounge tanks. i am thinking about getting 2: 90 gallons for my columbian redtail and my albino burmese python. just wanted to get your input on these tanks.
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NYCSpeedcore · #2 (**permalink**) 10-29-2002, 12:26 AM

I honestly would not get them myself... I have had a hard time in the past keeping up humidity and temperatures in glass tanks, not to mention the weight of them. I would go with two matching vision cages you can stack on top of one another. They are lighter, have sliding doors, hold in the humidity, and are easy to heat. LLLReptile supply sells them and ships them at a reasonable price.
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deadboy · #3 (**permalink**) 10-29-2002, 12:31 AM

do they have big vision cages like at least 90 gallons. does LLLReptiles have a website i would like to check these cages out. thanx.
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XzyluM · #4 (**permalink**) 10-29-2002, 01:03 AM

http://www.lllreptile.com/
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deadboy · #5 (**permalink**) 10-29-2002, 01:10 AM

alright i checked out the cages. i would like to get the 80 x 28 x 44. they are a little pricy. anyone know where i could get good cages about this size or this cage for cheaper. peace out.
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JuliusSqueezer · #6 (**permalink**) 10-29-2002, 01:32 AM

I don't have any trouble getting glass cages to hold humidity. It is all in how much screen is exposed and how it's heated. Here is what I do for Emeralds, Amazons and my GTP....I use cypress mulch as a substrate...the only heat is a heat pad set on medium under half the cage. I do not mist the cage. I pour a full quart of water into the substrate where the heat pad is and I cover most of the top with plexiglass cut to size and glued in place...or on some cages I have taped bubble wrap into place. I only have to wet the cage about once every 2 weeks. I took this photo 5 minutes ago. I poured the water in Friday when Ted was here.

It is actually easier though to get a cage this way than to hold off at around 50-60% like for boas though. For them I leave more screen exposed and use a low wattage heat light along with the heat pad. And I have to mist the cage or pour water in a lot more often.

I think the lizard lounges have the flimsey screen side panels...I am not certain but I highly suspect a boa would bust right out of one of those. and I don't really see any way to keep the proper heat and humidity regulated in a cage of that design.

Another thing...people tend to put too much emphasis on "gallons" or "volume". What really matters the most for boas and other ground dwelling snakes is "area floor space" Minimum requirement for a boa or burm is 1 square foot per linear foot of snake. So if your snake is 8 feet long. He/she needs 8 square feet of floor space minimum. By minimum, I mean...it will do. He won't praise you for all the cast space he has but he can survive in that without stress from being too cramped. btw for you math non-wizzes...area = length x width. So 2' x 4' = 8 sq feet. Lizard Lounges that I have seen are all tall and seem to be made for more arboreal lizards. While 90 gallons may sound huge....it probably has a lot of wasted volume in height and lacks in floor space. Think longer and wider and forget taller....taller doesn't help.

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deadboy · #7 (**permalink**) 10-29-2002, 01:41 AM

alright so if i got a vision cage i could get the size smaller than the 80 x 28 x 44, its not as tall but u said that wouldnt really matter. what kind of cages do u use julius? i should have a heat light and a heat pad on my cage? i only have an undertank heater.
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JuliusSqueezer · #8 (**permalink**) 10-29-2002, 02:17 AM

I keep most of my snakes in zip lock bags and coffee cans..lol j/k. I use everything from tanks to custom built wooden cages to a 2 story boa condo I built out of plastic pegboard and shower surround material. When I can, I am going to replace most if not all of the tanks with plastic cages....likely boaphile and some barrs cages. I do have one barrs cage now...I like the lightweight easy to heat idea of plastic....easy to clean too.

Should you be using a heat lamp? I dunno..if the heat pad is heating that end of the cage enough then I wouldn't ...Some cages I use lights...some I don't....just depends on the snake and the cage setup.. I keep my snake room at or near 80 degrees so I don't have to do much to heat most cages.
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NYCSpeedcore · #9 (**permalink**) 10-29-2002, 07:28 AM

The lizard lounges actually have a weird top to them, not a normal screen top. You have no choice but to use the provided screen cover. To hold humidity in them you would have to tape on a cover piece to the provided screen top.... and then it ends up rusting. I have kept brazilians in glass tanks quite easily by buying plexiglass and cutting it to the same size as the indentation of the tank top to hold up the humidity, but like I said, with a lizard lounge you really can't do that without rusting out the sceen real fast.
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faze · #10 (**permalink**) 10-29-2002, 09:02 AM

i personally have to say i've never used the lizard lounge's but lookin at them they look like they wouldnt have a problem holding the humidity the top of the cage is only 1/3 sceen and the whole cage has like 8 vent hole's which they supply caps for its also got a little rubber stopper in the back for if you wanna bring in cords for say a waterfall/fogger or the thermostat's cord all in all it "seems" like a very well built tank (i got one of the 45 gallons on my shelf at the store) but none the less its pricey but you also gotta figure in that they have to cut all the round hole's in the glass w/o cracking the tank which seems like it could be a real pain in the butt
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