Opinions on Vision cages

Relayer · #1 (**permalink**) 09-12-2002, 03:21 PM

I realize Boaphile seems to be the cage of choice here, but I have to look at all the options. Visions has a 72" X 36" x 17" cage for $379. Any opinions on Vision cages.
Also would that size be large enough when it comes time to mate 2 boas?
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MacGyver · #2 (**permalink**) 09-12-2002, 05:40 PM

We bought a vision cage that will eventually be used for our ETB when it gets bigger. The cage is great. Light and sturdy and really easy to clean. We bought the model 222 cage which is more for arboreal snakes. The size of cage you're talking about would most likely be much cheaper to build yourself if. It isn't hard at all. We went with a vision cage instead of a boaphile because it was a bit cheaper and we didn't like the way the door was on the boaphile.

Will
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NYCSpeedcore · #3 (**permalink**) 09-12-2002, 06:46 PM

Vision cages are personally my favorite cages out there, with a few exceptions. I would think twice before buying a Vision tank past the 422 (4' x 2' x1.5') esspecially if you want to stack them. Once you go past the 422 they tend to sag in the middle, not horribly but it bothers me. If you are planning to have just the one tank it will not really be an issue, as I have the 432 not stacked with no problems. Just something to think of, but again I love them. They are easy to control the humidity in, heat, and drill through (I like to top mount heat pannels in them and put purches in for my aboreals).
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telefrag · #4 (**permalink**) 09-12-2002, 07:49 PM

Vision cages stand up well to heating too,
they have the recessed light port on most of them,
but if you stack, you have to move all of them to replace light bulbs (ack!)

but I had 2 of the 48x24x18's ( I think that was the size) and I really liked them.
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StaticKaos · #5 (**permalink**) 09-13-2002, 03:07 AM

well your asking for opinion's so here is mine.. I think Boaphile (sorry Morti!) and Vision cages are rip offs.. They are VERY nice enclosures, do not get me wrong.. with 379 bucks you could build your own enclosure the size of a small bedroom!
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morti · #6 (**permalink**) 09-13-2002, 03:43 AM

That is a good price on a cage that long. How much is shipping going to cost though?
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Bryan · #7 (**permalink**) 09-13-2002, 04:03 AM

He could get it from Russ L. and pay $399 no shipping since he is in NY jsut pick it up.. I agree that the cages are expensive. But after having spoken with many breeders I know the cost is worth it. When you use wood and are breeding boas you need to change your cages every couple of years due to the moisture of birth. I am looking at both of these cages to see waht one works best for me. I must admit that if they were still avail. I would go with Neodesha.
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Karen · #8 (**permalink**) 09-13-2002, 04:10 AM

I have tried quite a few cages over the years and they all have their drawbacks. So far I have not found THE perfect cage, I've had to make adjustments to all of them. My favorite out of the group is unfortunately out of business now. Lets see.... Visions, the drawback I had with those were they bow in the middle,heat panels have to be mounted front to back instead of side to side and make thermal gradient impossible, oh and they look like cargo.
Neodeshas...... great cages, they tend to warp and crack from heat panels over a couple years time. Work great and with heating pads though. Boaphiles..... I really love the price and look of these cages. Drawback for Boaphiles though is the door. Not only are they NOT ESCAPE PROOF AT ALL, but offer no protection from big,hungry snakes. haha Homemade cages, I'm sorry but all the ones I've ever had have been the biggest pain in my arse. Too many drawbacks to list and I will never again have a homemade wooden cage. Sorry for the long post but being that Ive tried some of these and had to learn the hard way on all of them.
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joerissa · #9 (**permalink**) 09-13-2002, 04:37 AM

We have both Vision and Boaphile cages. They are both well worth the money. But if we where buying again it would have to be the Boaphiles. Here are a few things I do not like about vision.
First we are using model #221. We have 12 cages stacked 6 high where in lies the problem. The wieght of the 5 cages puts to much pressure on the bottom one making it almost impossible to remove the glass for cleaning. If the snake sprays on the track, the doors stick making it more difficult to slide open and harder to get out of the track. The floor has a few ripples that make it hard to sweep out the bedding, etc. I just prefer a flat bottom I guess. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif[/img] There is also a ledge above the doors that the snakes really enjoy wedging themselves into, making it a pain in the A** to remove them. This probably wouldn't be a problem with the larger animals though. I have not had any problem with this, but I do know a few people that have had them for years and say over time the Visions tend to hold odor really bad. Anyway thats my 2 cents. Hope it helps. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif[/img]
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morti · #10 (**permalink**) 09-13-2002, 04:43 AM

I agree with brian... If you are going to get a vision, get it from Russ. He buys a lot of boas with that money. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

-Your Sick Uncle Morti.
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NYCSpeedcore · #11 (**permalink**) 09-17-2002, 04:43 PM

On the subject of odor... I had a similar problem but was able to find out a way to beat it. Big Apple sells a disifectant called quat plus, i find that after using that it almost eliminates any odor left over from the urates and poo. Plus it kills EVERYTHING! If you are using paper you never have to worry about sweeping out the cage litter, but when my snakes where smaller they did wedge themselves in that gap at the front door a few times [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] .
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