Breeder's post your stats of morphs and wildtypes

[deadliestformula]

Hey guys, after the discussion on morphs effecting Herpetoculture, and the multiple mentions of statistics. Let's do our own study. If you breed, or have bred and have PRECISE records of what was bred and the results, please post em here so we can measure up how morphs fair against normals.

1. parent types (what morph or normal or het or whatever)
2. number of living offspring
3. number of preemies
4. number of slugs
5. number of living offspring that died within 1 month
6. of the offspring in # 2-5, What were they? (albino, poss het, normal, etc)

If you can think of any other relevant data, let me know. Once we get a sampling of results, I personally will figure out all the percentages and post them here! Then the debate will be settled

	Heterozygous Heterozygous - the animal carries the gene for a genetic trait but does not outwardly demonstrate the trait. Example: A boa that is het for albino looks normal but carries the albino gene. When it is bred to another het for albino boa or an albino boa, a percentage of the offspring will be albino.

	Morph A morph is a color or pattern variation that is proven to be genetic. Common morphs include albino, anerythristic, gentically striped, Hypomelanistic, and many others. Morphs also include combinations of simple traits such as "Sunglow" which is Albino and Hypomelanistic. These traits may be recessive traits, co-dominant traits, dominant traits, or created through selective breeding (ie Pastel).

[deadliestformula]

BUMP!!!
I know some of you have had a litter before...............

[Aaron_NSBM]

ok I will play.. I have only had 2 clutches and here it goes...

First one..

1. Colombian Female Bred to Colombian x Peruvian Male
2. 5
3. 0
4. 6
5. 0
6. All Normals

Second

1. Colombian Rainbow Female Bred to Colombian Rainbow Male
2. 0
3. 0
4. 8
5. 0
6. None Where Born Besides Slugs.. Would have been normal Colombian Rainbow boas

[CraigC]

corallus caninus (amazon basin) no morphs.

March 2002 both parents WC, LTCs
7 full term, no slugs, no stills

November 2003 both parents WC, LTCs
11 full term, no slugs, no stills

December 2003 both parents WC, LTCs
6 full term, 2 premies (1 saved, 1 had to be put down), no slugs, no stills
1 died at 1-1/2 months, no appearent cause.

corallus caninus (northern) no morphs.

August 2003 female LTC WC, male CBB
2 full term, 1 still born, 3 slugs

September 2005 female LTC WC, male CBB
3 full term, 3 slugs, no stills.

Craig

	Morph A morph is a color or pattern variation that is proven to be genetic. Common morphs include albino, anerythristic, gentically striped, Hypomelanistic, and many others. Morphs also include combinations of simple traits such as "Sunglow" which is Albino and Hypomelanistic. These traits may be recessive traits, co-dominant traits, dominant traits, or created through selective breeding (ie Pastel).

[natas]

great idea, please share this thread with others. We don't mind outsiders coming in and posting data as well

[morti]

The only problem is: We have no way to tell if problems are the result of some genetic defect or if somebody did something wrong. If a litter of, say, hypos was tragic, who is to say that there was not some husbandry error or some situation out of the breeder's control?

	Hypomelanistic Hypomelanistic - a genetic reduction in the dark pigment Melanin.

[John_E_Dove]

1. parent types (Florescent Orange Corn Snake)
2. number of living offspring (19)
3. number of preemies (0 – N/A)
4. number of slugs (2 of 21 eggs)
5. number of living offspring that died within 1 month (0)
6. of the offspring in # 2-5, What were they? (Florescent Orange Corns)

1. parent types (Snow Corn Snakes)
2. number of living offspring (12)
3. number of preemies (0 - N/A
4. number of slugs (1 of 13 eggs)
5. number of living offspring that died within 1 month (0)
6. of the offspring in # 2-5, What were they? (Snow Corns)

1. parent types (Normal Miami Phase Corn X Normal Male Corn)
2. number of living offspring (16)
3. number of preemies (0 – N/A)
4. number of slugs (7 of 23 eggs blamed on missing repeated breeding)
5. number of living offspring that died within 1 month (0)
6. of the offspring in # 2-5, What were they? (Normal)

SPECIAL
1. parent types (African Brown House Snakes)
2. number of living offspring (0 - see 7 below)
3. number of preemies (0)
4. number of slugs (5 of 23 out of two clutches
5. number of living offspring that died within 1 month (3)
6. of the offspring in # 2-5, What were they? (Normal)
7. All surviving offspring were euthanized at slightly over 3 months when some of each clutch developed spinal kinks for no apparent reason.
8. Both parents were withdrawn from future breeding and given to good pet homes with the stipulation that they could not be bred and must be killed or returned should the owners no longer want them.

I have replaced my African breeders with a Brown Female and a Red Male and will let you know how these turn out when I breed them.

	Corn Snake The Corn Snake or Red Rat Snake (Elaphe guttata) is a species of Rat Snake.