Redtailboa.net  

Welcome to the Redtailboa.net forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, free photo gallery (10 meg upload limit), free classifieds, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   Redtailboa.net > Reptile Misc > Breeder's Exchange & Projects
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Advertisement
Support Redtailboa.net, DONATE!  
 

» Site Navigation
» Home
 > Chat!
» Recent Threads
Ahem....
Last post by ChelsyC
Today 12:02 AM
32 Replies, 222 Views
Updated Cage Panorama...
Last post by mhartmann
Yesterday 11:57 PM
0 Replies, 1 Views
Got a royal, but bad...
Last post by haloedsatan
Yesterday 11:54 PM
24 Replies, 297 Views
not around much
Last post by ChelsyC
Yesterday 11:53 PM
8 Replies, 54 Views
Group Photo
Last post by SteveJor
Yesterday 11:46 PM
9 Replies, 111 Views
A native Texan
Last post by c.adamanteus
Yesterday 11:26 PM
21 Replies, 206 Views
one ugly girl...
Last post by Jem_Scout
Yesterday 11:21 PM
11 Replies, 146 Views
» Ads

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2002, 07:52 PM
Joeuk Joeuk is offline
Regular RTB User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 61
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 1,414.63
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,414.63
Donate
Rep Power: 13
Joeuk is on a distinguished road
73340

I was reading in my local news paper about a local zoo having some baby boas born, I quote the director of the zoo he says "all reptiles lay eggs, most of which are laid and hatch after a period of time. Boas however retain there eggs within their bodies until they are ready to give birth to live snakes."
I already know that boas give birth to live snakes but do they retain there eggs and if so when the babys are born are there broken egg shells there aswell.

Just wondering [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]
[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2002, 11:27 PM
storm storm is offline
Regular RTB User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 161
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 1,023.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,023.00
Donate
Rep Power: 22
storm is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to storm Send a message via Yahoo to storm
73361

As i understand it, Joe, boa's eggs do not have a hard shell, like a bird's eggs would. When the boa gives birth, the babies are in a small sack filled with their equivalent of amniotic fluid, or "baby slime" as the pros call it. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] That, i believe, is the boa's "egg".
[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2002, 11:49 PM
Heather Heather is offline
Regular RTB User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 392
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 3,846.56
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 3,846.56
Donate
Rep Power: 26
Heather is on a distinguished road
73363

now my new friend had bought a female boa & he did not no it was raedy to give birth. 2 days after he got her she had a lot of little babys. some were in these slime pouch. but some reason one baby had a egg over it. I mean a egg. he took it & open it, it had yellow goo all in it. I gess it was a boa that did not develop.
[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 09-03-2002, 03:02 PM
eddie's Avatar
eddie eddie is offline
Squirrel Bait
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In a refridgerator box
Posts: 4,947
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 25,213.20
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 25,213.20
Donate
Rep Power: 220
eddie will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to eddie Send a message via MSN to eddie Send a message via Yahoo to eddie
73365

<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE> but some reason one baby had a egg over it </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

That wasn't an egg.
It was the non developed fetus in the placental pouch.
In other words, a slug....

For the original question though, not all reptiles lay eggs.
many do lay eggs while others are just a little bit like us, having live births.

I'm not saying that eggs aren't there at all.
Most animal life does start out in an egg form, even humans.
The extent of or lack of species development determines whether we fully develop the fetus inside the womb, or whether it is expelled in a shell casing for development outside the parent.
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 09-03-2002, 11:19 PM
Kim Kim is offline
Newbie to RedTailBoa.net
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 37
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 594.81
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 594.81
Donate
Rep Power: 12
Kim is on a distinguished road
73452

The information you received about &quot;all reptiles' being egg layers in incorrect. Common and true redtails, Sand, and Tree, Boas are live bearers as well as anacondas, ribbons garter, and many venonmous snakes. Pythons, harmeless colubrids and their ilk are are egg layers.

Egg layers do not hold eggs per say. The &quot;shell is produced only as the the embryonic contents passes through their reproductive systemand out the cloaca. Then a calcified coating surrounds the tissue (or yolk) and hardens after deposition. They can however, retain these egg masses, either on purpose ( some reptiles and at least one egg laying mammal will retain their eggs until conditions are prime for laying, sometimes over the course of year. Retained eggs are also caused by illnesses and are a frequent problem for iguanas, chameleons, and many snakes.
Kim
[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 09-04-2002, 01:21 AM
trinitywolf's Avatar
trinitywolf trinitywolf is offline
I am an RTB Addict !
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Lou, KY
Posts: 2,478
Thanks: 14
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Points: 6,414.35
Bank: 5,004.92
Total Points: 11,419.26
Donate
Rep Power: 127
trinitywolf will become famous soon enoughtrinitywolf will become famous soon enough

73493

Glad to see that someone got in here to clear that up. I tired to post to this all last night and could not get in. [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_evil.gif[/img]
I waited all day to come home and check this post. LOL [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
I understand where Heather's mistake was, but of course, almost every boid gives birth to live young.

[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 09-04-2002, 01:49 AM
Ed_r's Avatar
Ed_r Ed_r is offline
I Really Need a Life !
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Chicago, Il
Posts: 3,479
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Points: 11,802.94
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 11,802.94
Donate
Rep Power: 156
Ed_r is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to Ed_r
73502

As was stated boas are live bearers. The embryos do live in a embryo sack much like a human fetus does. When the sack and embryo dies the sack gets thick and hard(a Slug) I suppose if you want to get technical you could consider the embryo sack as an egg. Gravid Boas have been known to absorb the embryos from too much stress or improper care conditions.
[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 09-05-2002, 04:44 PM
JuliusSqueezer's Avatar
JuliusSqueezer JuliusSqueezer is offline
Guru of Poo
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Atlanta Ga
Posts: 15,581
Thanks: 99
Thanked 517 Times in 283 Posts
Points: 63,454.12
Bank: 7,016,109.72
Total Points: 7,079,563.84
Donate
Rep Power: 0
JuliusSqueezer has a reputation beyond reputeJuliusSqueezer has a reputation beyond reputeJuliusSqueezer has a reputation beyond reputeJuliusSqueezer has a reputation beyond reputeJuliusSqueezer has a reputation beyond reputeJuliusSqueezer has a reputation beyond reputeJuliusSqueezer has a reputation beyond reputeJuliusSqueezer has a reputation beyond reputeJuliusSqueezer has a reputation beyond reputeJuliusSqueezer has a reputation beyond reputeJuliusSqueezer has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to JuliusSqueezer




73748

viviparous eggs have a thin membrane for an &quot;egg shell&quot; that is held inside the mother untill the fetus is mature enough to hatch....they hatch either during birth or within a few minutes after birth with no need for external incubation. technically these are still eggs as they are an individual &quot;packet&quot; for lack of a better term of yolk and fetus....animals born in this type of egg still have to cut their way out. For all practical purposes though..viviparous eggs are more like a placenta than an egg.

oviparous eggs are laid with an undeveloped embryo and have to be incubated outside the mother's body for a period of time that the animal inside can fully develop before hatching out.

root word vivi=live
root word ovi=egg

as a rule: all boas give live birth including anacondas...pythons lay eggs. there are arguable exceptions in that calabar pythons are more closely related to sand boas and even a species or two that are considered sand boas, lay leathery eggs that require incubation. personally, I think anything in the sandboa/calabar family are more an evolutionary link between boid and colubrid anyway. there is nothing boid like about them other than skeletal similarities like pelvis and spurs and I think they should be in their own little group anyway.....but....who am I to say? If I had a vote in this...I would start a new group for the little guys....so what if they have spurs....so do cowboys and roosters...and we don't call them boids.


Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 09-08-2002, 09:19 AM
Lori_SnakesRule
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Points: 0
Bank: 0
Total Points: 0
Donate
74050

<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE>When the sack and embryo dies the sack gets thick and hard(a Slug) </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually the slug is not hard, it is quite pliable.
[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 09-09-2002, 08:50 AM
Dr.Oviparous's Avatar
Dr.Oviparous Dr.Oviparous is offline
I am an RTB Addict !
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Destin, Florida
Posts: 1,900
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 8,878.50
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 8,878.50
Donate
Rep Power: 88
Dr.Oviparous is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to Dr.Oviparous
74163

Hence my 0.1 CCP's name: Dr. Oviparous [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] -Juggalo
[addsig]
Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Points Per Thread View: 0.25
Points Per Thread: 1.00
Points Per Reply: 0.50

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Really soft leo eggs! gecko_paws Geckos 14 08-23-2002 11:05 AM
indented burm eggs...help dee Breeder's Exchange & Projects 5 07-28-2002 09:15 AM
Turtle eggs Constrictor_BO Post Your Pics 8 06-04-2002 03:41 AM
Burm eggs are here!!!!!! Burmiester Misc Pythons 6 05-14-2002 02:42 AM
Eggs JJshiv Geckos 2 04-24-2002 01:13 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v2.2.0

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:05 AM.


0 Credit Cards | Personal Loans | Remortgages | L