Think this is worth going broke over?

[VexalUntil]

It's all perspective, sorry for my slightly harsh comment. I'm not in a stable enough position to spend my paychecks on snakes any more so I use money from selling babies to buy more. So my personal views influenced my response. That's just me.

If you feel you can aford her then that's all that matters. She is a very interesting looking BCL... I thought it was a funky BCO for a second. Then realized why would you be going nuts over an Argentine

[Sakara]

LOL!! I love argentines, but wouldn't spend a lot on a BCO unless it was a "Maxx Pink" line, haha...

She's a hypermel BCL which is a much darker anery version...

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[Sakara]

I realize maybe I shouldn't have named the thread as I have The title was meant as a joke because she's a nice snake...

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[HERPHAPPY]

Originally Posted by Sakara

I realize maybe I shouldn't have named the thread as I have The title was meant as a joke because she's a nice snake...

She's very cool looking! Totally your call though....good points all around!
From where I sit, in all honesty, it sounds like you wanted everyone to cheer you on to yet another "slithering pringle".... and you should be happy to know that many care enough about you to voice concerns beyond the expected responses of "wow...go for it!"
Snakes, like many other things, ARE very addicting! 'Nuff said!

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[Sakara]

oh I know... and I know that the only "permission" I need is from Ryan and usually he tells me no

I deff. appreciate the concerns... I know they just mean I have friends out there who care

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[Stargazer]

Well, it is a gorgeous snake. Maybe I'LL buy it. I only have two.

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[Sakara]

that's not nice Star

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[Stargazer]

ha ha if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

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[Jt.]

I don't think the money issue is the most important one.

It's the care. Do you have someone who helps, other than your husband?

You'll have a (beautiful) litter of BCA soon plus your new baby.

Everyone must learn their limits, as much as it sucks.

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[XxPython_ChicxX]

Originally Posted by Jt.

I don't think the money issue is the most important one.
It's the care. Do you have someone who helps, other than your husband?
You'll have a (beautiful) litter of BCA soon plus your new baby.
Everyone must learn their limits, as much as it sucks.

Yup! Me She knows all she has to do is pick up the phone and ask..and im there..I told her and we have talked about this when her hubby goes away and she has the kid, i will be there to help clean and care for her snakes..even if i have to do it by myself ..Ash is smart..She wouldnt buy something she knows she cant afford..We were talking bout this exact snake today and how much it is..Im pretty sure she will think it over more then once before she makes a purchase

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[Icicle]

Here is my thoughts,
You only live once, so get it.

[lostmale28]

I would buy her up in a hurry if i had the extra cash, You don't see snakes like that everyday, well i don't anyways.

[John_White]

Originally Posted by AGActaeonia

I think Ashley's an adult and can make her own decisions. Seems rather inconsiderate - not the contrary - to remind her of things I'm sure she already knows, has considered, and is arranging accordingly for her own benefit, not the approval of others, however good of friends, and of course, the glaring fact that it's no one's business but hers and her husband's.

Under normal circumstances I would agree with you 100%. However, Ashley has chosen to make some of her private life public knowledge by posting it on a public forum. As far as i'm concerned once you have elected to air your personal business on a public forum you need to accept the fact that people will comment on it.

Based on Ashley's comments given below, I would agree with her about having a "full plate".

"all this is very stressful... we have enough on our plate right now as it is and my mother refusing to give me my son back is just adding to the list of crap... I mean, Ryan is deploying in under a month, we are having another child in November and my mother just wants to make my life living heck and make me seem like a piece of crap that doesn't care about my son... "

"and she always refuses to bring him to visit me. even though I pay for his ticket every time. she makes excuses that she doesn't have money for her own ticket because she just bought this or just bought that, etc. and says that I should spend over $1k to fly myself up there, pay for a rental car and hotel to see him. which I can't afford to do! nor could I take leave to even do that if I wanted to while i was on active duty for the last 2 1/2 years."

Just a small vent
I can't stand ignorant people...
Snakes and kids?

etc...

[HERPHAPPY]

Well said, John, as usual!
Ash, one thing to think about if you really want your son back is having room in your life for him, as the court sees it anyway.
And extra money in the bank for unforseen emergencies (not unforseen snakes!) is never wrong, & could go a long way to make them see how responsible you are now.
Many of us humans buy things to fill a hole left by what we REALLY want/can't have....Is it really the snake you want?
And as Jt said above, it seems do-able right now when approached incrementally, but long term care of alot of big animals can get pretty overwhelming down the road...sure would hate to see you dumping them in 10 years! Also ask yourself if their plentiful offspring (which you will be creating eventually) will realisticlly have good homes...? In light of more and more restrictions*...which because of the ever increasing human population are just not gonna "go away"! (*not just talking bans here, but the difficulty of people keeping these kind of pets being able to find affordable places to live, as many have to rent!!!)

[RayRay]

Originally Posted by John_White

Under normal circumstances I would agree with you 100%. However, Ashley has chosen to make some of her private life public knowledge by posting it on a public forum. As far as i'm concerned once you have elected to air your personal business on a public forum you need to accept the fact that people will comment on it.
Based on Ashley's comments given below, I would agree with her about having a "full plate".
"all this is very stressful... we have enough on our plate right now as it is and my mother refusing to give me my son back is just adding to the list of crap... I mean, Ryan is deploying in under a month, we are having another child in November and my mother just wants to make my life living heck and make me seem like a piece of crap that doesn't care about my son... "
"and she always refuses to bring him to visit me. even though I pay for his ticket every time. she makes excuses that she doesn't have money for her own ticket because she just bought this or just bought that, etc. and says that I should spend over $1k to fly myself up there, pay for a rental car and hotel to see him. which I can't afford to do! nor could I take leave to even do that if I wanted to while i was on active duty for the last 2 1/2 years."
Just a small vent
I can't stand ignorant people...
Snakes and kids?
etc...

And this still haunts me... Hopefully that Koda is doing better now, but that is very, very frightening. We have to assume because I haven't heard anything.
Last chance.....


I agree with John 110%.
Your business should be your own, but when you have to ask complete strangers on a SNAKE forum about training your fear-defensive dog or how to handle your custody battle with your son, then you need to step back.

I'm sorry, but I can't sit here and be happy-slappy about this. Not after the doggy-drama, which is an animal related issue. Not after knowing what was made public knowledge by Ashley herself.

Perhaps I'm just mean, though. Put the money away for the baby, and when he/she is old enough, let him/her decide what to do with it.

[Rachel SS]

So to get this thread back on topic...

It's a gorgeous snake.

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[Rachel SS]

Originally Posted by VexalUntil

It's all perspective, sorry for my slightly harsh comment. I'm not in a stable enough position to spend my paychecks on snakes any more so I use money from selling babies to buy more. So my personal views influenced my response. That's just me.

If you feel you can aford her then that's all that matters. She is a very interesting looking BCL... I thought it was a funky BCO for a second. Then realized why would you be going nuts over an Argentine

Hey! What's wrong with going nuts over an Argentine!

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[stealthk7gsxr]

i saw a very very very very very VERY similiar looking baby at the all animal expo a couple weeks ago. and it was just shy of my budget so i kicked and screamed and pouted (in a manly way of course) all the way home. then i went an bought a few pounds of jumbo shrimp and got over it. there will be others.. and who knows, the price might be better next time around. atleast thats my motto lol

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[nitram]

im with rachel lol, argentines are solid creatures in their own right =D
as per the rest of the madness, sometimes i think people post things (or say things) publically just to vent. in most cases these vents are driven through emotion which can dilute ones thoughts (ie. "i got a ticket so now i hate cops" or "im late to work and there's traffic so now i hate people and cars and earth's inhabitants"). i wouldnt do it, im a little more private with my business, but wouldnt go as far as using this against anyone. imo ashley may have attracted opinions (both negative and positive) in certain threads but i dont see it as an invitation to use it as ammo on later conversations. i see it as a "here and now" type of deal, but thats just me.
anyway, thats a gorgeous snake, id get it. if you can get it, get it.
ps if down the line youre overencumbered with snakes, i'll take some off your back =D i dig your collection.

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[Sakara]

btw- Koda is doing really well... other then getting a little excited and not listening when company is over, he's done much better. hasn't had any outbursts or issues. other then trying to eat my fence that he thinks is tastier then any toy or bone he gets... -_-

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