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Old 05-13-2009, 11:42 AM
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Look my new tank setup

Hi guys, recently I went out, hunting for new branches and logs etc for my tank.
I finished building this past weekend.
here are some photos.



her favorite spot hehe

I just misted the tank prior to these photos, so this is why the glass looks the way it does.

let me know what you guys think.
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:27 PM
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Re: my new tank setup

how do you get the branches and logs to stay on the walls?
oh and did you buy them or just find them outside?


very nice tank

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Old 05-13-2009, 01:46 PM
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how do you get the branches and logs to stay on the walls?
oh and did you buy them or just find them outside?
very nice tank

thanks

I put 3 long thick bolts through the side of the tank straight into the side of each log to hold them there, you could stand on them and they wouldn't budge.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:43 PM
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Were nice. Are those plants live or did you buy Silks? And if you did were did you get them?
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:51 PM
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all plastic and material, dunno if its silk though.

I got them at Reptilians in Randburg. right near the Sandton Medi clinic, awsome petshop, if you haven't been there before they have a huge selection of reptiles.
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Is that the one across from Monty? Do you have the street name?
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:07 PM
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if by Monty you mean Montecasino, then no, its in Randburg or on main road, well you could almost call it Bryanston its border lining the two.

The address is: 278 Main Road,
Bryanston


its inside the Garden shop Nursery.

so there is a pet shop there next to Montecasino?
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:12 PM
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Yes in the Nursery next to Montecasino on William Nicol cnr Montecasino Boulvarde. They are very good. If you are looking for Suri's they might be a good place to try. There's a nice reptile petshop on Christian De wet as well at the nursery just before you get Wilgeheuwel Hospital. on the left if you are coming from the Dome.
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:42 PM
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Wow, I like it, looks very nice.
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Your setup is beautiful and your boa looks very happy!
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:55 PM
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Re: my new tank setup

Thats a sweet set up - hope one day mine will get there, but i noticed your bulbs arent covered, cant they burn your boa?
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Old 05-13-2009, 09:15 PM
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Thats a sweet set up - hope one day mine will get there, but i noticed your bulbs arent covered, cant they burn your boa?
Thanks for the compliments guys, i really enjoy doing these types of setups.

I have set up the top branch so that the snake cant actually get to those bulbs, she would have to do some serious stretching! The florresent tube at the back is in a closed unit so that shouldnt be a problem. But to be honest im actually thinking of taking that red bulb out and the moonlight lamp they look ugly and dry out the air, i think im going to get one of those ceramic heat emitters instead.

Do they work well? I have two under floor heat pads and the tank still doesnt stay warm enough unless i use those bulbs?
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:49 PM
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Re: my new tank setup

i love seeing your cages, they look so great!! i would worry about the boa coming in contact with the bulbs though

edit: whoops, posted too fast before i read everything the ceramic heaters work great, but they get super hot and you would HAVE to enclose it with something so your snake cant touch it. ive barely touched those things with my hands before and got nasty burns.

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Old 05-13-2009, 10:58 PM
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she would have to do some serious stretching!
Don't be surprised when she manages.

What type of UTH are you using? Where is the enclosure located? What's the material it's constructed from?

Dependent upon the material a higher quality UTH may do the trick... What's the output (how warm is it at substrate level?)

You could use heat panels, but unless you've an extremely ornate wooden enclosure I find their impractical for the money required to purchase them, personally. A higher output UTH such as Flexwatt on a thermostat could warm up the basking area (1/3 total floor space) dependent upon how warm your basking area currently is.

Dependent upon where the enclosure is located, it would be in your best interest to heat the room to the appropriate ambient temperature (82-85, I'd say), allow the UTHs to provide the basking spot (which would, unfortunately, limit those lovely branches to exorcise purposes) but the temperature gradient between the directly heated and unheated ends would likely be adequate.

And unless I'm mistaken, a CHE would dry the enclosure out just as lamps do. Whether or not this is so, someone please confirm.

I'd crop those bulbs out of the picture before Hairless sees this. Hahaha
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:02 PM
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i love seeing your cages, they look so great!! i would worry about the boa coming in contact with the bulbs though

edit: whoops, posted too fast before i read everything the ceramic heaters work great, but they get super hot and you would HAVE to enclose it with something so your snake cant touch it. ive barely touched those things with my hands before and got nasty burns.
Thanks im glad you like it if they work great then i should probably get one then. Ill make sure the boa cant get to it an get burnt.

There is something i was wandering though, my boa never actually lies on the ground where the heat pads are. She is almost always somewhere in the branches, she is either on the top branch or the bottom one but very seldome is she on the ground an if she is its not where the heat pad is.

I find this very strange as most boas i have seen in other peoples enclosures sit on the heat pad and hardly ever move?
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Re: my new tank setup

In this you and I are in precisely the same boat, Sachak.

When mine were young they seldom touched the ground, either, instead electing to bask below an overhead heat source. When I moved them to their larger enclosures they now only use their UTH - which irritates me because I've a beautiful snake in a beautiful enclosure and you can't see them, lol...

For example, here is one of my current vivariums:



The UTH is located on the right beneath a hide in which the Boa sits directly atop the UTH.

Here she was provided an overhead heat source as well as a UTH, but instead elected to stay elevated.



Young Boas tend to be arboreal if given the advantage as older become less and less so, to my understanding. Perhaps the reason yours favors the perch is due the air temperature rising toward the top, and without a hide over the UTH (I didn't see one, unless I missed it) she feels more comfortable beneath overhanging flora than sitting on the floor in the open, however warm it may be.
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:25 PM
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Re: my new tank setup

Just before im told that its because of the bulbs, i have to say that the bulbs havent been in my tank for very long i had no bulbs at all a coupleweeks ago and noticed the same behaviour.

During the day the room is pretty warm as the sun heats it up nicely. The ambient temp in my tank is around 82 although i dont think it gets as high as 89 or 92 maybe right close to the bulbs but she never goes close to them.

The tank is made from chip board i then coated it with vanish and then painted it. The tank im building end of the month will be pine but my big boa is going in there. She is with the owner of the place i got her from till i build my tank.

Hmm not sure of the make of the heat pads.
Humidity is aroind 60% but if i turn bulbs off it hits high 80's so i put water bowl over a heat pad and keep bulb on for a balance of good heat and good humidity.

Bulbs go off at night and heat pad under water bowl goes off so that it doesnt get too high humidity.
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:37 PM
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Re: my new tank setup

Your boa is beautiful!! The lighter the boa the better as long as it has high contrasting saddles. So very dark saddles on very light boa looks awsome eepecially with bright red tail. Your tank is also very cool.

Im hoping my boa stays mostly arborial lol its pretty boring seeing a boa chill in a corner on the floor in the same spot all the time. But thats just me. It was a mission finding the perfect branches and then cutting and fitting after that she better use them lol that big branch weighs a good 40kg at least. Me and a friend had to lift it as it was so heavy.
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lol, my boas move around their cage, hanging out in diff spots. they only really use the heat pad for a day or two after their meals, then after that, they move around to diff spots.
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Re: my new tank setup

Boas go in trees for 4 reasons;
1.) to access warmer spots (such as a branch under the heat lamp) Temp gun the branch she likes and see if the ground offers the same.
2.) for security. Many small reptiles including boas find security in arboreal hiding spots as they get large and become more predator than prey they tend to be on the ground more and out more.
3.) to find food. Many prey items are found in trees
4.) to escape a ground predator. In captivity this would be a large bipedal primate

If given large enough cages with strong enough branches large boas will still clown around on them.
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