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Old 06-27-2007, 07:21 AM
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Is the boa family only member of snakes that get mutted?

Ok so we all kno or most of us kno that most BCIS are mutted...well and its said that Columbian BCIS are the most docile sub specie of the Boa family...so do you think if some BCIS are mutted with diff sub species not bein Columbian could have more of an attitude problem? rather then a Pure columbian BCI or even a Columbian with other blood like most of them are??

I think that it has something to do with their 'mutt' genes making them genetically more resilient and more forgiving with husbandry, therefore less likely to become overly stressed.

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Old 06-27-2007, 08:06 AM
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Is the boa family only member of snakes that get mutted?

Why is it i never here of the python family bein mutted like i always here about boas bein mutted? can snakes like ball pythons or burmese not be cross bred and mutted liek boas im confused???
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Re: Is the boa family only member of snakes that get mutted?

Pythons can produce mutt crosses as well. there are currently ball x burm crosses, ball x jungle carpet crosses, and burm x retic crosses that I know of off the top of my head.

Colubrids can produce mutt crosses as well. King x rat, etc.
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Re: Is the boa family only member of snakes that get mutted?

ball and blood crosses too.
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Re: Is the boa family only member of snakes that get mutted?

As far as the Mutt boas, you are talking about locality specific crosses. They are always the same species, and often the same sub-species. The reason why it may seem more prevalent in boas is the people who are interested in locale specific boas are vocal and visible. No one ever knows if their ball python came from Togo or Ghana, and they usually don't care.
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Re: Is the boa family only member of snakes that get mutted?

It is not a specific problem to boas (or even snakes for that matter), it is an issue that covers the entire herp world (and in reality, probably most of the pet industry), just take a look at a die hard carpet or die hard chondro forums.. the same arguments happen over there all the time. There are a few forums that it seems like that is all they want to talk about.
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Re: Is the boa family only member of snakes that get mutted?

Hybridization happens with most species in the herp world the most common is probably the jungle corn. It is propably one ofthe biggest ethical debats in the hobby today, just look at when people post I wanna cross B.c.c. with B.c.i

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Re: Is the boa family only member of snakes that get mutted?

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Thank you. From your lips to God's ears. It takes no longer to use actual words and proper English, and then we all can understand each other. This isn't just about you RealDeal, or even this thread. It's a good point for the entire site and all forums.
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Re: Is the boa family only member of snakes that get mutted?

I have noticed ALOT of questioning that sounds a bit "obsessive" over the "purity" of an animal from you recently (over the last moth to month and a half). Almost as if you are searching for that one thing that will allow you to instantly tell wether or not an animal has been crossed. The fact of the matter is that you can't (none of us can just on looks or attitude or size or color or ....well, you get the point). The only way to be completely sure is to go collect it from the wild yourself. Second to that (and it is a bit of a distant second) you will need to find a breeder that you "trust" enough to tell you the truth about the animals that are being sold. As far as purity goes (and I have said this in other threads) even the top reputations cannot always trace a line all the way back to its place of origin---my best example is the old Florida Red Tails who readily admitted that some of their original breeding stock was of "unknown origin" (that was thier words not mine). They simply looked for the best "looking" example of BCC that could be found and went from there. I doubt there are many people willing to argue that FRT's weren't "pure". If it is that much of an issue for you then you may want to think import...that is as close as you are going to get to collecting it yourself. Then (assuming you don't want to deal with the problems that can accompany an import) try larger, established breeders that have a good reputation for locality boas (ie: Gus, Tudehope, Futo, Miller, Yagi, Dyer...etc). Looking to "spot the cross" will only succede in driving you crazy because you are looking to fulfil an impossible task. Asking questions simply to educate yourself is great...that is why we are all here. Looking for "the answer" is something that may not ever happen. I hope none of this was taken as an insult because it isn't. Just trying to save you some frustration and anxiety.

Of course all of this is just my opinion, just some advice from one who loves pure boa constrictors

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Re: Is the boa family only member of snakes that get mutted?

I should note that I am not just picking on you RealDeal I have noticed poor spelling and grammer in many threads. This is gonna make me sound alot older then I really am but not everyone is fluent in hommie.
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