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Old 02-24-2006, 07:36 PM
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Sexing Arboreals

In BCC, and BCI, sometimes you can get a hint as to what sex it is by it's body shape and the presence of spurs next to the cloaca. Do ATB's, ETB's, or GTP's have similar traits or is the only way to know what you've got to probe them?
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in all my reading i've never seen anything that said that sexing an arboreal is any different than and other boid. i believe that the cloaca spurs are present on both tree and ground dwellers.
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Although the spurs are present size is going to be subjective, along with body shape the safest way to be absolutely certain is to probe. I have an ETB that has reasonably large spurs that I am assuming is a male, but in my case I don't need to be overly confident that this is the case as I have no intention of breeding.

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man i noticed after his shed, that judas' spurs have gotten much longer this time, and very sharp lol.
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Both males and females have spurs on ETBs. Usually, the males are bigger, but that is not always the case and you have to see a lot of animals to make the observation and tell the size difference. At least one breeder says that the tail size and shape is a visual determinator of sex. Again, you have to have a tremendous amount of experience and see a lot of animals.

There are only 3 ways for the average person to tell for sure. Probing is one, but with arboreals you need to be very experienced and it's a good idea to have a helper to ensure you don't hurt the animal and/or end up with lots of lovely puncture wounds yourself. The second way, and you have to wait until the animal is big enough to see the hemipenes, is to watch them poop. Those hemipenes pop right out and you have proof positive, particularly since a sperm packet usually comes along as well. The third, and again the animal has to be older, is to check the shed, you can see the little protuberances of the hemipenes with a clean shed.

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There is no way to tell by looking at spurs. I have female Chondro's with bigger spurs than most of my males. Probing is the best way but you can turn your female into a male if you don't know what your doing and push in the probe.

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Oops, forgot about popping and Craig reminded me. Again, in order not to injure the animal, kink the tail, etc, it should be done by a very experienced person. Very reliable in terms of determining males, but not 100% in determining females.

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