Nice long post Will...
But before you post on facts, at least do YOUR homework and get some of the facts right before posting.
I will play Devils Advocate and point a few out for you to give YOU a chance to edit, proofread etc. before getting others on other forums pointing out where the mistakes are.
<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE> The pryrethroids in it only last 25-30 minutes</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>
Not correct.
BK is as follows.
Black Knight Roach Killer Aerosol Company, Inc. Phenothrin and/or d-phenothrin (1.998%)
from -
http://pested.unl.edu/appenxb.htm
<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE> Another thing floating around the net, again by people who listen to other unqualified people, are saying that provent-a-mite is copying the ingredients to black night, or something about them having the same ingredients- THAT&#8217;S ALL BULL!!! LOOK AT THE CANS THEM SELVES AND YOU CAN SEE, WITH YOUR OWN EYES!!!!!
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This has been covered here in numerous threads, but it is NOT BK that people say is the same as PAM.
It has been clarrified to death that BKJ and POM are NOT the same, while POM and Sawyers are the same.
POM and Sawyers ARE the same exact EVERYTHING, patent numbers etc, with the exception of the price.
I and a few others also remind people to use Sawyers EXACTLY like POM.
So I guess using Sawyers is NOT animal abuse since it is not going directly on the animals.
Do you use it directly on yours or in treating their cages?
<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE> I my self have been using it for 3 years on my crested, leopard, and tokay geckos, my tortoise, my iguanas, and the hundreds upon hundreds of snakes I had and have in my collection and the hundreds of rescues I used to do every year, not to mention all of my friends (before they got their own cans).
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If so, then that is abuse, please clarify whether or not you do this practice. As on POM it says to treat the cage and NOT the animal.
<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE> To those who think this cant happen, go do your research. Its called evolution, you are giving them exposure to many things, and they will eventually become tolerant.
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And POM is not causing any changes to the physiological make up of mites?
As you said, everything can influence changes.
This is true, changes do occur rapidly in the short life cycle critters such as mites, ticks, roaches etc. but you can not say that one chemical cocktail is superior to others in not being a cause for change.
If it were so then there would only be a need for one chemical to wipe out all the bugs in the world and no need to change formulas to keep up.
<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE> YOU THINK ITS BAD NOW, WAIT UNTIL THEY CANT DIE, AND THEY SPREAD ALL SORTS OF SICKNESS, INCLUDING I.B.D AND OTHER FATAL DISEASES!!!!!
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Mites and IBD...
Sure, some cases of IBD have been reprted with mite infestations, BUT, the transmission of and carriers of IBD have never been established scientifically.
The only certain facts known about IBD are that it has no cure, no method of ID without a post mortem series of tests and that its routes of transmission are UNKNOWN.
Please stop scaring people into believing that if they have one mite or a thousand that their animal will contract IBD and need to be put down due to such.
Another criticism that you can benefit from...
The use of emotionalism that you have shown here really does NOTHING for your cause in this matter. Try to write in the future MINUS the emotionalism and you will be considered to be a LOT more believable than the way it sounds now.
You can either write facts, pass off non facts as facts or pass off emotions as prelude to non facts in hopes that we will use our hearts instead of our minds to decipher the truths or what is wanted to be used and believed as truths.
Hopefully I have covered everything that I set out to show in this post , as it is early, not much sleep for me today and trying hard just to focus on the moniter.
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