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Re: Hybridization Debate V1.0

Many people are not OK with crossing subspecies, like BCI or BCC because it is ethically wrong to them.

Many people are not OK with crossing species like Ball X Blood or Ball X Burm because it is ethically wrong to them.

Many people are not OK with crossing different genera like Kingsnake X Corn snake because it's ethically wrong to them.

Perhaps the reason that it seems less ethically wrong to others comes from a difference in perspective. If you are of the opinion that snakes are absolutely perfect in their wild-type form and we shouldn't mess with them at all, then the idea of hybridizing is going to be completely foreign to you. Perhaps what some of the people who produce these snakes are thinking about is: We already keep them in captivity, and that doesn't strike anyone as ethically wrong. We already breed for good looks (either for morphs or for nicer looking wild types) and that doesn't strike anyone as ethically wrong. Is is so far a stretch to say that for an animal that was bred in captivity for keeping in captivity, hybridization may not strike some people as ethically wrong?

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Originally Posted by ChadRamsey View Post
well just to name a few of the OBVIOUS reasons why it should NOT be done:
1) species size differential! example: burm smothering ball during breeding! Is that risk worth it? (maybe to some people! even though I cant figure out why!)
2) EGG size differential!!!!!! Could a ball carry and lay burm sized eggs? NO! Could a burm carry ball sized eggs? Who knows and I hope WE never find out!
3) Could it happen in the wild? NO!!!!!!! That would be a heck of a long distance relationship, huh? AS A RULE, do different species interbreed in nature? NO. God took care of that when he created them!
IT"S JUST NOT MEANT TO BE!

And to those that say: "Well some one else has already done it, so i am too!" I ask you this: Just because other people smoke crack are you going to?
Think about it!
1) This is a risk with many breedings. Males are generally smaller than females in many species. Bad things can happen even just breeding two boas together. You may note that it is the smaller male riding around on the larger female 99% of the time. Point one does not strike me as a high risk.

2) I think we already found out due to the apparently viable offspring in the pictures posted in a previous thread. Looks like one way or another, they can carry each others eggs. Incidentally, Ball eggs are rather large when you consider the size of the snake.

3) You are correct: A Burmese Python is never going to encounter a ball python in the wild. If there have been known instances of this happening in the wild, does this make it ok? For example: Wild collected Emerald Tree Boas have been known to come in gravid with offspring or Amazon Tree boas. In your opinion, is it OK to cross these two species then?

As far as God making them that way, I have almost no argument for you about your views on God. I learned a long time ago that once something is Holy, it's undebatable.

Last edited by morti : 05-08-2007 at 05:42 PM.
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