<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE>well, since we're on the subject of brumating J....is it about that time for colubrids?</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>
Nah, I'd say it was a little early yet...at least wait until October...
<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE> Now I here with colubrids, the female is usually smaller than the male. Is this true? </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>
For every rule there is an exception. My male corn is smaller than a female of the same age...and he's been well fed in his almost 2 years of life.
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because the one I always thought was a female, is way bigger than the one I thought was a male. And I've owned the male longer. When I say weird, they would both flicker there tails at each other, climb all over each other and just act different then I've ever seen them act. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>
With corn snakes, I can almost eyeball the tail once they reach a certain age and say male or female with a pretty good % of success
All I can tell you is how brumation is supposed to go. Mating is another thing entirely, one that I have absolutely no experience with. Kings are probably a little freaky when mating, wondering if the other one is going to try and eat them. I've been at Jules place in the spring and the kings (gray bands) were together and chasing each other like mad around the cage.
<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE>Another ? is what size to they have to be to safely brumate them. Well, for the female anyways. I should go look this up on the internet and I will. But this is still good info for others. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>
I would say at least 2 ft, assuming they're at least 18 months old. A colubrid that only grows to be 4' will obviously be much older at 2' than one that grows to be 7'. In terms of captive specimens, I would want at least a full year of solid meals into them before I tried. I'm with Telefrag, if you can breed them without brumation, go for it. It's too stressful if it isn't necessary...it's a survival necessity that really isn't in captivity.
<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font class="pn-sub">Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT class="pn-sub"><BLOCKQUOTE>And how long before she lays eggs while we're at it. Thanks J....just testing your skills.... [img]modules/Forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>
That I have no idea, having never bred any myself, but I have been following the "production" of the little bullsnake I'm getting next week. I would say 60 days from copulation, but then you have to be able to pin copulation down to a short range of days to be accurate. And some species only take 30 days. Anytime after a month of when you THINK copulation occured, I'd start watching and have an appropriate nest box set up...that's why breeding is such a big draw, it's not exact and precise. FYI, for bullsnakes, the eggs were layed on/about may 24th and hatched about July 25th.
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